It’s funny, before this, I was just going to buy a legit copy and play it on my Deck (I have a Switch, but prefer the Deck)
Now, fuck those guys. If I play at all, it’ll be on a pirated copy.
Deck is superior to Switch! And obligatory F—- Nintendo, and their 1990’s mindset with games and hardware. I’m convinced they’ll have to financially fail to start caring. Even a 30% reduction in their sales and player counts should quickly seize their attention.
At this point 2024 is looking like the Year Of Nintendo’s Failures starting off with Palworld. They certainly deserve to fail!
With all that free money, it looks like Nintendo will be just fine if I never purchase another one of their games. Hell, I may even offer to hack some of my friends’ systems just to spite Nintendo.
I’m gonna rcm my switch now and copy my animal crossing island to my PC to be emulated. Shoulda done that a long time ago to have a backup that I actually own instead of having to pay Nintendo to keep my save data backed up. I see no reason to play any more Nintendo games on my switch, much less purchase any more when I have my steam deck.
Absolute chad. Keep fighting the good fight.
So this defensive strategy was planned from the beginning. The L in LLC stands for limited. It means Nintendo won’t get any money. Tropic Haze LLC declares bankruptcy and tells Nintendo “our assets are two rolls of toilet paper and this empty can of coke, GL with getting your millions”. Certainly cheaper than fighting a top lawyer team with unlimited funding
Yeah the LLC structure always seemed weird to people. After what happened to Bowser serving prison sentence and having his future earnings garnished for the rest of his life, this might have been the smart play. Yuzu group will never be able to pay the 2 mil. Company goes under and owners walk away from this escaping real harm.
Is that really how it works? Good for them in that case.
It’s complicated. I’m no lawyer so take this with a grain of salt, but LLCs don’t offer blanket protection. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piercing_the_corporate_veil
It is possible to go after people directly, and side step the LLC protection in certain cases. Depends how much Nintendo wants to screw these guys.
I think Nintendo is gonna chill out because they got what they wanted. AFAIK in the super blatant piracy lawsuits, they won huge sums of money but required stupidly low payments of $50 monthly. Part of me thinks that they don’t actually care about piracy itself, but they do care about how it affects their ownership of their properties.
A big reason why I say that is because of a legal theory made by Moon Channel on YouTube. Nintendo as a young company was sued by Universal because Donkey Kong violated the King Kong trademark. Nintendo won that case by arguing that Universal lost said trademark because it was loosely enforced, and they probably feared that another company could do the same to them if they weren’t careful. This could be why they are only suing big targets that are profiting from emulation/piracy and not “non-profits” or smaller sites.
That being said, Nintendo wants to create legal precedent by denying a specific principle in the DMCA that was legally ambiguous. Previously, it was assumed that you could bypass copy protections by supplying your own keys, but now, providing instructions on how to do so may not be allowed.
And no one ever pirated a Nintendo game ever again.
In other news:
- Switch sales up 2000%!
- Nintendo stock reaches all-time high!
- Half-Life 3 released!
The poor Nintendo executives can finally afford to go to space, like they deserve!
Via jettison? 🤞🏻
Straight into the sun!
Fuck Nintendo. Find better games for your kids to play. Buy a Sega genesis with an everdrive or set up a raspberry pi or something. Tux kart is better than Mario cart these days anyway.
And just like that, Nintendo have guaranteed to never get a dime of my money again 🏴☠️
What a greedy corpo. I’ll be waiting on the MVG video covering all the legal details whenever that drops
Same, and they fucked up the Citra Emulation too, and it’s the only 3DS Emulator. Nintendo may makes great games, but they are better in a museum than fucking up the industry like that.
Sony will follow these steps.
MVG dropped a video today giving his thoughts on it
That was fast.
They settled.
this case does not set any legal precedent, but it’s still a shame they settled.
Fuck Nintendo. Bunch of money hungry cunts. I hope their sales plummet. Emulation isn’t illegal but here fucking are being forced to buy their horrendously shitty console to play a game. Glad I bought mine secondhand and already sold it. You once had honour. Now you can commit seppuku
Saw this coming and made sure to update one last time. Ill probably just switch to Ryujinx at some point.
RIP Yuzu
It isn’t dead yet. The source code was downloaded by a bunch of people when the lawsuit was announced, so there’s already forks being uploaded to other accounts.
Its dead. Another project based on it source code might arise but it won’t be the same team and will take a while before it would be smart to trust the new project.
My guess is the most recent version of Yuzu, as a stand alone, will probably work for a long time anyway. So i guess there is that…
That’s what I mean. They say you aren’t truly dead until the last person forgets your name. Yuzu might not have the same team going forward, but the source code is there, and somebody will continue the project. We won’t forget where it came from, and so Yuzu will live on.
Agreed. Same thing with Tachiyomi a couple of months back. It still lives on
Yup, and on iOS it’s called Tachimanga, and is a direct port of Tachiyomi.
True just look at how long project64 v1.6 has been around
Source has been posted on Internet Archive (along with the latest builds for a bunch of platforms). Something will likely rise from the ashes of YuZu, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it takes a few years. Nintendo is probably gonna be extra litigious this year (even more than usual), due to them likely failing to have the Switch’s successor ready this year, and not really having a full slate of games ready, so with Switch sales projected to be down, best to lay low on anything that might get Nintendo’s attention for a while.
Same. Updated on my desktop, though I forgot my Steam Deck. Apparently you can still update on Linux, so I’ll be doing that after work
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Fuck Nintendo. They’re going on my shitlist forever. They were already on my shitlist. Now they’re just on the same level as HP which is the lowest level.
Same, I haven’t supported them since 2020 but after this I’m never coming back. They can go fuck themselves, I hope their “Switch 2” fails like the WiiU did.
Yeah hard to say. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ryujinx gets hit next. It looks like the source code for Yuzu is, at the very least, saved on the wayback machine, so my guess is a fork will eventually pop up.
It seems like a better strategy would be to host this on the dark net. When working on projects like this, they need to start putting effort into making it so that it’s almost impossible to link them to real life people. People sell drugs on there all the time and seem to get away with it. Maybe we need to adapt.
We need an “Illegal software github” kind of like pirate sites but for source code that governments and corporations don’t want people to have.
Shitty thing is, emulators and emulation themself aren’t ilegall.
What nintendo attacked here is the fact yuzu was used to play copies of games for their still used and developed for system, doesn’t matter whether it was pirated or not to them, all they care about is the fact that it was a current gen system emulator and they didn’t like that fact because they think it hurts their sales.
Big companies are probably better at finding people than law enforcement is
Yes, absolutely. I’m sure experienced, qualified developers are clamoring to invest thousands of hours of work into a fork of a project hosted exclusively in a space only a fraction of a percent of the online world will ever access. I love the “fuck corpos” attitude from this community, I really do. But Yuzu development is dead. Super dead. Nintendo killed it and all the other emulator teams and game publishers are looking at it thinking about what’s next.
As of right now Citra and Yuzu are both available via Flathub!! If you want them there’s still time!!!
Lol install statistics shot up when initial news broke last week.
Installs are nothing. Fork it. Improve it. Even better if original devs would still contribute.
Honestly someone should just copy all of the files onto 10, 000 cheap small flash drives and just hand them out everywhere.
I guess this is damage control, since they are afraid of setting a precedent of potentially killing off legal emulation in the US for good.
There’s no chance, an emulator dev team can take it up against Nintendo’s lawyers.
Don’t blame Nintendo, blame capitalism.
Both. Blame both.
Blame Canada, blame Canada!! Oh wait…
True, if they went to court and lost, every emulator project would likely be sued. But settling out of court also sets a precedent, or rather perpetuates the current status quo of crushing any vaguely gray area fan project with the threat of legal action. The shutdown of Yuzu will embolden Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony to be more aggressive about killing off these projects. Until someone does take one of these three to trial and wins, things are going to continue getting worse for game preservation.
Capitalism taking its’ course until we stop it, I’m afraid.
nintendo? more like nintendon’t!
@mr_MADAFAKA between this and sending Gary Bowser to jail and taking money from him while in prison … i will NEVER buy another nintendo product. I should have come to this conclusion LONG ago … but i guess better late than never.
#fucknintendoAnyone know where to get the most recent linux build as a .deb? I wanna have an installer in case I have to wipe my os or something like that.
I heard the flat pack is still up
Yep, snap too
Yeah, but is there a way to download flatpacks for an Install at another time?
I wanna be able to install it at a later point in time (for example when I reinstall my system)
apt download yuzuwill download the deb file (but not dependencies) of the latest release to the PWD. But if you want the latest dev version, you’ll have to build from source.Thanks, I didn’t know this was an option :D.
GitHub releases?
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Their git hub is gone
