"The goal of terraforming is to intentionally create an entire ecosystem on a global scale, which would more than likely destroy any existing ecosystem."
So, i read the “Red Mars” trilogy. I also keep up with research into the Martian atmosphere, its soil and geology.
My take is that all of this is still a pipe dream as much as it was 30 years ago when we did not know many of these things.
People don’t want to see just how hostile Mars is to life. They pick a couple of the most obvious problems (e.g. radiation, no liquid water, no oxygen) and then they look for the first solution that seems viable and then declare Mars somehow liveable because look we can just implement those things.
But they are completely ignoring that: none of these proposed solutions have been implemented at scale yet, at least not outside of earth’ atmosphere, there are hundreds of other known problems that often just don’t make it to the head lines because they don’t look that interesting or threatening (example: dust is suuuuper deadly on Mars, probably even worse than moon dust) and many problems will undoubtedly only become obvious once living beings are on the surface of Mars.
I am glad that there is hard sci-fi dealing with some of these problems in very optimistic ways, because we should try to better our understanding of them and not just give up, but we also should not have any illusions about how hard this task is and that this can take centuries of work.
Yeah, skimmed the article ans they dont seem to mention tge problem of having no oxygen (which might be a problem for the moss?), Mars not having enough gravity to hold an atmosphere (or is that bs?) and also the timescale (I think terraforming takes at least tens of thousands of years?).
Zach Weinersmith (of SMBC) recently wrote a great non-fiction book with his wife about how difficult and inadvisable actually settling Mars would be called /A City on Mars/. Great reading if you’re interested in non-fiction humor about the subject.
So, i read the “Red Mars” trilogy. I also keep up with research into the Martian atmosphere, its soil and geology.
My take is that all of this is still a pipe dream as much as it was 30 years ago when we did not know many of these things.
People don’t want to see just how hostile Mars is to life. They pick a couple of the most obvious problems (e.g. radiation, no liquid water, no oxygen) and then they look for the first solution that seems viable and then declare Mars somehow liveable because look we can just implement those things.
But they are completely ignoring that: none of these proposed solutions have been implemented at scale yet, at least not outside of earth’ atmosphere, there are hundreds of other known problems that often just don’t make it to the head lines because they don’t look that interesting or threatening (example: dust is suuuuper deadly on Mars, probably even worse than moon dust) and many problems will undoubtedly only become obvious once living beings are on the surface of Mars.
I am glad that there is hard sci-fi dealing with some of these problems in very optimistic ways, because we should try to better our understanding of them and not just give up, but we also should not have any illusions about how hard this task is and that this can take centuries of work.
Yeah, skimmed the article ans they dont seem to mention tge problem of having no oxygen (which might be a problem for the moss?), Mars not having enough gravity to hold an atmosphere (or is that bs?) and also the timescale (I think terraforming takes at least tens of thousands of years?).
If I remember correctly, it’s not a lack of gravity, it’s a lack of a magnetic field, so solar winds strip away the atmosphere.
Yes, that sounds familiar!
Zach Weinersmith (of SMBC) recently wrote a great non-fiction book with his wife about how difficult and inadvisable actually settling Mars would be called /A City on Mars/. Great reading if you’re interested in non-fiction humor about the subject.