The European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8 billion for abusing its dominant position on the market for the distribution of music streaming apps to iPhone and iPad users (‘iOS users’) through its App Store. In particular, the Commission found that Apple applied restrictions on app developers preventing them from informing iOS users about alternative and cheaper music subscription services available outside of the app (‘anti-steering provisions’). This is illegal under EU antitrust rules.

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      7 months ago

      Apple’s answer is fair. IF THERE WAS A WAY FOR SPOTIFY TO BE DOWNLOADED WITHOUT THE APP STORE

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        Either that or just don’t directly compete with them. Without Apple Music no one would have complained about it.

        But you can’t establish a monopoly and leverage it to charge your direct competitors a high fee.

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      And it’s so utterly ignorant of WHY the fine was issued. This isn’t about a competitors market position, it’s about Apple using its own dominant market position to push its own service. Using a monopoly to create another monopoly is anti-competitive.

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      Despite that success, and the App Store’s role in making it possible, Spotify pays Apple nothing.

      That’s because Spotify doesn’t owe you anything. If I release a piece of software for Apple, Android, Linux, Windows, etc., I don’t owe these OSes anything for that. Apple makes plenty of money selling hardware, that’s good enough for them.

      These delusional bastards really need a few slaps around their heads to get this concept to sink in.

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        I can see an argument for owing something for hosting the app in the App Store, but certainly not 30% of what every user pays or whatever ridiculous amount Apple charges. Price it like hosting a file on S3, perhaps.

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          You already pay to host your app in the app store.

          And the thing is, that if the app is so popular, it gets installed a lot. Which means it only improves their devices.

          Apple and app developers are a symbiotic relationship. Both need each other in order to function. Yet Apple is consistently taking a bigger piece than they should.

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          Perhaps! But only if they allowed third party app stores. Because as it stands right now, they’re basically inventing a cost that they pass on to developers, and then rewarding themselves handsomely for the cost that they would have never needed to pay if they allowed others to compete in this area. It’s still a tactic they could not get away with if they were not a monopoly.

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          Hell nah. They cannot be the sole gatekeepers, alternative app stores that are outside of Apple’s control need to exist.

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      Lmaooo

      “Spotify doesn’t even pay us!!!”

      Edit: omg its so tone deaf, the pot calling the kettle black:

      "In short, Spotify wants more. "

      Once more, lmaooooo

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      Damn that’s petty. They’re like a 5 year old child that got their toy taken from them

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        They’re used to being treated like God’s special little tech company here in the states, so of course they’re going to throw a fucking tantrum when faced with a regulatory body that actually treats them as they should be treated.

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      I am wondering if it’s really true, that Spotify pays nothing to Apple. If my information is correct every app provider needs to have at least one active Apple Developer subscription (in the case of Spotify there is probably far more than just one account involved). If it is true that Spotify pays nothing to Apple the only possibility is that Apple invited them to bring their app to iOS and granted them free access.

      I know 99 USD is not what Apple is after, but it seems dishonest to not disclose this.

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      Despite that success, and the App Store’s role in making it possible, Spotify pays Apple nothing. That’s because Spotify — like many developers on the App Store — made a choice. Instead of selling subscriptions in their app, they sell them on their website. And Apple doesn’t collect a commission on those purchases.

      Oh noooooo, Apple is only making most of the money, instead of all the money 😭

      Eat shit and die, Apple

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      They’re getting punished for keeping the users in a golden cage, and they are mad that they might have to give some of that power away. You can tell by the fact that not a single paragraph actually addresses the reason for the fine. The EU doesn’t give a damn how many times you flew engineers to Stockholm, this is about the conditions in which iOS operates that hurt both developers and users. But we already knew that Apple doesn’t give a fly about users, it’s money and nothing else for them. “Spotify doesn’t pay Apple” oh cry me a river.

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      Under the App Store’s reader rule, Spotify can also include a link in their app to a webpage where users can create or manage an account.

      Instead, Spotify wants to bend the rules in their favor by embedding subscription prices in their app without using the App Store’s In-App Purchase system.

      I’m confused now. What is a “reader app”?

      Spotify wants to make subscriptions an app functionality and Apple restricts that to it’s own payment system - and the alternative they provide is external websites?

      Why the heck is it called a “reader rule” and “reader app”?

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        I’m confused now. What is a “reader app”?

        This is some of Apple’s own terminology. It applies to any application who’s main purpose is to serve up audial, visual or text-based media.

        Apple allows these apps to access existing accounts via apps but not create new ones.