I read the content of the transcript. A lot of leaps are being made from one diplomat’s statements. Lu simply said they don’t want to cooperate with a leader that is rubbing shoulders with Putin and it’s perfectly reasonable considering a) Pakistan is the recipient of US foreign aid b) Putin is doing his best to annex every territory around Russia that he can before anyone stops him. Whatever Pakistan did to oust him needs further proof that it is directly caused by US interference. I haven’t seen that yet.
Edit: you know what guys; this one politicians claims and a random cable is all we need. No further proof needed. American imperialism genocide colonialism western hegemony – did I get all the poli-sci 101 buzzwords in yet or did I leave any out? Someone needs to create an ‘america bad’ phrase generator already. That is the sum of discourse on Lemmy after all.
Is it from the last fifty years? Because if it’s Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc thats all agreed on. If you’re going to refer to that, then I get to apply the same logic and find fault with every other country in the world–we don’t get to pick and choose who we like. It doesn’t work like that. This is still an extraordinary claim for an event that happened last year.
“america had the bloodiest”- haha good one. North Korea, Russia, the Uyghuirs in China, and a couple dozen other countries would like a word. I love the selective outrage on this platform.
Imagine selectively ignoring the rest of the context of my whole statement. Are you illiterate? Take the 61 famine alone which killed 30 million people thanks to mismanagement by Mao’s government. You guys are professionals at selective outrage.
Nop. Those where three countries that came up right away at the top of my head with least effort. I’d like to know how you came to your categorical declaration that “America has the bloodiest”. Again, it’s selective outrage. You guys are professionals at picking and choosing.
I’m not offended. I didn’t even grow up in the US. I just hate the low effort and poor media literacy on social media. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The whole “America bad” is a worthless schtick intended just for virtue signaling.
In my experience, anyone that has ever said “you need to read more” has either a) no substantive argument to make b) is equally ignorant on the topic at hand. I have yet to be proved wrong, such this lovely example right here. You guys are only interested in grandstanding. Which is fine, grandstanding makes you feel good, so you do you.
I’ve noticed you like to load a lot of emotion in your language. “Cry much” “blood on hands”. I don’t care who has the most blood on their hands. I’d like to see more fact based discussion. Is that…too much to ask? Seems enough to have ruffled a few feathers. I guess I’ll go “cry more” now. Yikes.
I read the content of the transcript. A lot of leaps are being made from one diplomat’s statements. Lu simply said they don’t want to cooperate with a leader that is rubbing shoulders with Putin and it’s perfectly reasonable considering a) Pakistan is the recipient of US foreign aid b) Putin is doing his best to annex every territory around Russia that he can before anyone stops him. Whatever Pakistan did to oust him needs further proof that it is directly caused by US interference. I haven’t seen that yet.
Edit: you know what guys; this one politicians claims and a random cable is all we need. No further proof needed. American imperialism genocide colonialism western hegemony – did I get all the poli-sci 101 buzzwords in yet or did I leave any out? Someone needs to create an ‘america bad’ phrase generator already. That is the sum of discourse on Lemmy after all.
deleted by creator
Honestly, we should rely on solid evidence. Exceptional claims require exceptional evidence.
deleted by creator
Is it from the last fifty years? Because if it’s Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc thats all agreed on. If you’re going to refer to that, then I get to apply the same logic and find fault with every other country in the world–we don’t get to pick and choose who we like. It doesn’t work like that. This is still an extraordinary claim for an event that happened last year.
deleted by creator
“america had the bloodiest”- haha good one. North Korea, Russia, the Uyghuirs in China, and a couple dozen other countries would like a word. I love the selective outrage on this platform.
Removed by mod
Imagine selectively ignoring the rest of the context of my whole statement. Are you illiterate? Take the 61 famine alone which killed 30 million people thanks to mismanagement by Mao’s government. You guys are professionals at selective outrage.
deleted by creator
Nop. Those where three countries that came up right away at the top of my head with least effort. I’d like to know how you came to your categorical declaration that “America has the bloodiest”. Again, it’s selective outrage. You guys are professionals at picking and choosing.
deleted by creator
I’m not offended. I didn’t even grow up in the US. I just hate the low effort and poor media literacy on social media. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The whole “America bad” is a worthless schtick intended just for virtue signaling.
deleted by creator
In my experience, anyone that has ever said “you need to read more” has either a) no substantive argument to make b) is equally ignorant on the topic at hand. I have yet to be proved wrong, such this lovely example right here. You guys are only interested in grandstanding. Which is fine, grandstanding makes you feel good, so you do you.
deleted by creator
I’ve noticed you like to load a lot of emotion in your language. “Cry much” “blood on hands”. I don’t care who has the most blood on their hands. I’d like to see more fact based discussion. Is that…too much to ask? Seems enough to have ruffled a few feathers. I guess I’ll go “cry more” now. Yikes.
deleted by creator