• Buttons@programming.dev
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    6 months ago

    I can understand your frustration. I currently feel that way towards a certain political party, but I have to keep an open mind because things change.

    For example, I don’t doubt what you said Democrats was true in past decades, but today I believe the Democrats are more friendly towards LGBT rights than Republicans are. It appears things have changed on those specific issues.

    Maybe we wont agree, but let’s at lets at least find clarity: Do you believe Republicans or Democrats are currently more friendly towards LGBT people?

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      6 months ago

      like abortion, the democrats did nothing when they had the chance and; in my case and many others like me; they actively made it worse.

      it was hollywood that changed people’s minds on lgbt issues and democrats are simply the political beneficiaries.

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        Also, to get that clarity I was seeking. Do you:

        1. Recommend people vote for Democrats (sounds like no).
        2. Recommend people vote for Republicans.
        3. Recommend people vote for third-parties or not vote at all.

        These are the only 3 possibilities. Which are you?

        For example, if you believe that Republicans are better for LGBT issues, then I want to hear you say it: “I think Republicans are better on LGBT issues”. I have my own opinion on this which I will keep to myself, I really just want you to be clear about your view and then let everyone judge for themselves what they think is right.

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          6 months ago

          vote for a third party if you’re in a safely red or blue state and vote your conscience otherwise.

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        6 months ago

        All fair criticisms of Democrats in my opinion.

        The only thing I have a problem with is your “never vote Democrat” rule. You do you, but I believe voting in a way that will most help LGBT people, and most help women’s reproductive rights, etc–I believe that if you want to cast votes that most support those causes, it will sometimes require voting for a Democrat.

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          6 months ago

          i’ve voted democrat before and will likely again; it’s fascinating how people interpret a message in a way that wasn’t said and that’s not meant as an indictment on you.

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            6 months ago

            Earlier you said:

            i’m permanently anti democrat party

            and I read that as “I will never vote democrat”. I see now that’s not what you said.

            I too would love to see us do better than the two deeply flawed parties we have now. I wish we had a better voting system that allowed better parties.

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              I too would love to see us do better than the two deeply flawed parties we have now. I wish we had a better voting system that allowed better parties.

              i can understand the “better red than dead” voters because they’re getting what they want; so i mostly blame the “vote blue no matter who” voters because they have never gotten what they want and continue to believe that choosing the lesser evil option will somehow make things better even though it never has and never will.