• InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    People are so quick with conclusions without actual information.

    If you read the article, it is about whether the person gave consent or not for the kiss.

    We as just observers on the internet, have no idea about that. So why drawing conclusions?

    EDIT you can downvote all you want, since it doesn’t mean anything on here. However let me ask:

    Were you next to both of them when it happened? I’m assuming not, so how do you know the facts? Conclusions without facts are just random opinions.

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      11 months ago

      Dude, Hermoso herself said it was non consensual. How can you justify suing HER since it happened to HER. Do you know what she was thinking?

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        11 months ago

        My point is, people here pretend as if they know everything what has truly happened. While we are just observers, we do not know actually has been said at that right moment (or do we?). I do not justify anything, never claimed I was justifying anything.

        Certainly he can he an ‘‘POS’’ but I don’t know. I don’t know him that much, do not follow him and do not know him personally.

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            11 months ago

            It’s not empiricism. He’s disguising nihilistic cynicism as skepticism.

            His argument boils down to he think that we should doubt someone when they tell us their own feelings. He’s claiming that if we don’t have 100% certainty about something being true, then we have 0% certainty. It’s almost a retreat into solipsism, suggesting that because we can’t know with perfect certainty, then we have perfect uncertainty.

            Doubting that someone who says “I didn’t want to be kissed” didn’t actually want to be kissed is to outright call them a liar. It’s victim blaming. He’s just trying to mask that behind a false veneer of skepticism and mental acrobatics because he knows that his position actually sounds appalling when presented straight-forward.

            • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              While we are just observers, we do not know actually has been said at that right moment

              Empiricism: the theory that all knowledge is derived from sense-experience.

              The argument seems to be that we cannot make any determination on this unless we have first hand knowledge and have experienced the event directly ourselves.

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                10 months ago

                The argument seems to be that we cannot make any determination on this unless we have first hand knowledge and have experienced the event directly ourselves.

                Using this methodology makes all concept of justice moot. If we can’t make a determination without firsthand knowledge, then we can’t ever prosecute or judge anyone but our own selves. No reasonable argument can ever be made if this is the foundation one relies on. Thus, it is an absurd retreat into solipsism.