• Gigan@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Do you have a real-world example of a successful communist state? Because you may not like it, but those “communist” countries are humanities best attempts at enacting communism and they resulted in millions of people dying.

    • Peter G@mastodon.social
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      6 months ago

      @Gigan
      There are none! There’s a reason pure communism is called a utopia. Because it is! While it may work for a small community of like-minded individuals, is just not scalable. The more people there are the more difference of opinion there is.
      @RmDebArc_5

    • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      No. But that doesn’t mean something like a socialist democracy couldn’t be achieved. Socialism isn’t bound to have a certain type of government and if we get rid of capitalism I would still like to have a say in what happens next

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      6 months ago

      Communism only works on paper because it assumes that the people in power are going to just happily share everything equally. Humans don’t work that way, we’re selfish, greedy, and will hurt others to get ahead. There is no difference between a capitalist and communist leader. They both live better, eat better, make more money. There’s no equality there

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        6 months ago

        Humans do work that way. In the wake of disaster, and tragedy, and scarcity, we see people sharing resources and helping each other.

        It’s the sociopaths who seek power that don’t work that way. The biggest success of capitalism is that the sociopaths have normalized their behavior and cast kindness as a flaw or disorder.

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          6 months ago

          Humans do work that way. In the wake of disaster, and tragedy, and scarcity, we see people sharing resources and helping each other.

          And also opportunists that will take the opportunity to loot and steal, then happily abandon anyone behind them still in the disaster.

          If your baseline assumption is reliant on people doing… well, much if anything outside of being self serving it will break down fast.