• roadkill@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Take care not to make statements so inaccurate they are effectively meaningless.

      1. “US white bread” isn’t a singular brand and most brands don’t “contain[s] a carcinogen”…

      2. You never mentioned what the carcinogen was. Probably because it would compromise your argument that “US white bread” as a whole contains it when it does not. (It’s Potassium Bromate/Bromide (it’s used interchangeably online sometimes), for those wondering.)

      3. It’s not limited to white bread in where it can be used. It was an additive to flour in general.

      4. A lot of the fear mongering blogs, written by ‘influencers’ whose research consists of 10 seconds of Googling but not verifying a single fucking thing they write about, name brands that contain potassium bromate… but actually don’t. Example: Wonder bread (https://wonderbread.ca/our_products/white-bread-675g/) Chex Mix. Looking up their ingredients list shows the item in question is not used at all. https://www.chexmix.com/products/chex-mix-traditional/

      TLDR: Think before you repeat vague, meaningless shit next time.

      BTW, You should look into the horrors of Dihydrogen Monoxide.

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        1 year ago

        My statement is far from meaningless. Mild carcinogens are still carcinogenic. Sure, a small dose as a one of will not cause problems short term, but long term build up is a thing.

        1. It’s a preservative widely used in US white bread, but banned in Europe and other places.
        2. I don’t know the specific carcinogen off the top of my head, I’ve never bothered to remember it, and didn’t look it up earlier while I was half snoozing being driven home.
        3. So you do know what I’m talking about.
        4. My source was Dr Joel Fuhrman. I’m not sure if you’d call him an influencer. While I do turn my nose up at some of his preaching, I think much of what he says is backed up by solid science. Not that I follow it myself. If it’s since been removed from most products then good for you and other people in the US.

        Your link to Wonderbread is from Canada.

        Chex Mix doesn’t contain azodicarbonamide (I’m guessing this is the one we’re talking about? I wouldn’t be surprised if there are others), but it does use butylated hydroxytoluene, which is also classed as GRAS (Generally Recognised As Safe) by the FDA based on a study from 1979. Yet both chemicals have since been called into question for their links to cancer. From a cursory glance, azodicarbonamide has a more proven link, while butylated hydroxytoluene has yet to be properly studied and the link is questionable.

        Too much dihydrogen monoxide can kill you.

        Alcohol is also carcinogenic - more so than bread additives - but I’m definitely having some of that tonight.

        Also, Joel Fuhrman had a podcast talk about lemmy’s favourite, BEANS.

        Edit: Bloody kbin users, breaking lemmy threads. Supposedly there’s a comment underneath mine, but it won’t load, and there’s nothing on kbin.