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      i suppose stop paying attention and shut up like the mods & users of lemmy.world and reddit keep pushing me to do.

      honestly, i think that if hadn’t have suffered as much as i did at the hands at biden, obama, both bush’s & clinton i would probably agree with them.

      my suffering PALES in comparison in ways that i don’t want to imagine for those suffering in gaza and sharing my views and voting accordingly is easy now that i no longer live in texas, so i’ll keep doing it; it’s just nice to see the it’s not the same 8 or 9 dozen lemmyverse users who also feel this way.

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        It was an honest question, I’m not from the US, so I have no horse in the race.

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            I mean I guess I’d rather Trump didn’t win, but I can’t do anything about it. So no, I have no horse in the race.

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              so long as american bombs, american soldiers, or american money touch your country; you too will be impacted by this race.

              the only way to plausibly ignore it is to be russian, chinese or western european; everyone else is the world is kowtowed to american hegemony, willing or not.

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            Even if we are under US hegemony, we don’t have a horse in the race. US foreign policy is dependent on the decades of built up institutions and material forces beyond any individual’s control. There is no meaningful difference depending on who is president besides optics.

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              that’s only true if you’re somehow insulated from american hegemony.

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                Depends… We’re all interconnected on some level. But i don’t care anymore.

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        What’s an alternative that won’t end up seating an insurrectionist leading a party that wants to nuke Gaza and send the National Guard to beat the shit out of protestors before moving on to ensuring Ukraine is wiped out?

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          Literally expand your political imagination outside of the presidency please. Democrats are doing genocide right now, things are going to keep getting worse the longer we don’t build up a mass workers party. You can vote for Harris in November but building up a counter to Democrats and Republicans should be your primary concern.

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            The primary concern is keeping Repubs from taking over and ending elections, a prerequisite for your mass workers party to be viable. I would love to vote for that. Until the nation soundly rejects Repub fascism or changes to a sane voting system it isn’t really an option.

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              Lol worker’s parties don’t need bourgeois elections to win power. See, China, ussr, Cuba

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            I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me. A thing I have a tangible effect on. I also don’t want to get labeled a child molester and be executed come January due to project 2025. Harm reduction is a real and valid goal. Just because someone wants that doesn’t mean they aren’t trying to do other things that can help

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              I find this quite disingenuous. No one said that they are only thinking about the presidency? I sure as hell am not. I do everything I can in my local area to have socialist and leftist candidates representing me.

              Expand your political imagination, this isn’t enough if you want to fight fascism.

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          insurrectionist

          Insurrection against the US government is not a bad thing.

          nuke gaza, beating protestors, ensuring ukraine is wiped out

          This is happening right now under Biden. Casualties in Gaza are estimated to be on the order of 200,000 (the official numbers have stayed around 40,000 for so long now because the health ministry’s capabilities have been decimated). Protestors are being beating, not just in the US tbf, also across the whole of the “democratic” and “free” west. Ukraine has been utterly failed by the western powers who have opposed both a peaceful settlement to the conflict or fully committing. Once the war ends, it doesn’t matter if Biden or Trump is in charge. Ukraine will be looted again just like Russia in the 1990s.

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          The Green party and Cornel West

          Not sure if you’re projecting Democrats beatdowns on anti Genocide protesters and their Genocide on the Republicans or are just in Blue Maga mode right now.