• x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Most encryption services have probably been infiltrated by the feds to some degree, and I can live with that. It’s the corporations I want to hide from.

      France has recently started going after people who organize demonstrations.

      They have had zero problems getting big social media and even Discord to give up information about people.

      But some chat apps were safe from the governments, so why do you think the Telegram CEO was arrested?

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        Recently? Maybe i’m wrong, but i remember a 2 years old news telling that france was pursuing allowing the police to spy on rioter’s phones… I remember it was not long after the “end” of the yellow jacket’s riots, so maybe it’s even older.

        Dysthopic vibes.

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          I forgot about that, my “recent” was more like half a year to max a year. But now that you mention it I do think so yes.

          Very Orwellian

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        Telegram is not safe from governments. Maybe safe from Western ones.

        It does not have E2EE for most things. Which means TG users are not safe from TG owners, and TG owners are not safe from those who are the force behind them.

        Maybe it’s Israel, maybe it’s Russia, Durov’s female friend was spotted in Baku in a “cyber-security” center operated by Israelis, so maybe Azerbaijan. Maybe I don’t know.

        You don’t have to know which exactly force that is. All you have to know is how TG works.

        people who organize demonstrations

        … can use Signal. Its usability has improved a lot since I last tried using it. I’ve just moved half of our family chats there, another half is waiting till a bit later, because they are on another continent. It’s as convenient as WhatsApp.

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        I assume he was arrested because he is a russian asset.

        Regardless, he was doing business in France and not following its laws. So the official reason still makes more sense than your fantasies.

        Yes, companies should comply with law enforcement when their platform is evidently used for crimes.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          It’s because he kept letting terrorists and child molesters get away with their crimes.

          Governments would continually go to him and ask for help to save people’s lives and he told them to fuck off.

          He’s right where he’s supposed to be now.

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      Man ain’t nobody escaping feds in the fucking fed land if they want to fuck you over legit or not.

      But we ain’t got to make it easy for them either, let them do their jobs if they think they got something.

      Privacy for me at least is denying the corporate the data. Your story and many other ones like it reinforces the well known fact that they farm us.

      But clearly shit works based on ad trash cos valuations. But we still got adult men and women out here who got nothing to hide 🤡

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      its way more likely that your mom searched for cancer related information on google. and you are connected to your mom, so you get ads as well.

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        I get the feeling this thing, I mean, the ad targeting is far stronger in the USA (maybe also in europe) than in the rest of the world. My “ad targeting” is idiotic. I once was in brazil (argentinian here!). And got ads in portuguese for a year or so. I was a month planning on buying a computer, with all that that involves (google searchs, looking for prices on internet) and i never got an ad until i actually bought everything, then it was 2 months of ads recommending me to buy the exact same components i already bought.

        As today, half of my ads are in german. Jokes on them, i use them to learn.

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          I dont mean to be snide, but the abbreviation for advertisement is ‘ad’, not add.

          Also, using uBlock Origin on Firefox (or its various forks) gets you rid of ads pretty much universally. It’s also a security feature in the post-2000’s internet; lots of malware use ads as an attack vector.

          You should not need to suffer through ads - no one should.

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            I dont mean to be snide, but the abbreviation for advertisement is ‘ad’, not add.

            Thank you