I think OP means the part where both emphasize taking care of your community, since that can be done with or without religion. Some ideas are so good that many groups adopt them.
Religion has very flawed ideas regarding community, however. It always results in a hierarchical structure and works to exclude those who don’t abide by its values.
It is possible to be a good, selfless person and be religious, but I don’t think it’s possible to have religion without enabling power-grabbing, insular practices too.
You’re exactly right, friend. I don’t believe in all the Mormon religious stuff, but I like the culture, hard work ethic, health attitudes and ideas on education. I’m a proud Mormon socialist.
Not really. Socialism is a broad term with a lot of meanings. People often assume socialism requires antitheism because specific Communists venerated the state above all, and pointed to religion as a competing priority. Marxism was born in a context where the Church was seen as the ultimate authority. Monarchs and oligarchs claimed divinity as their reason to rule above all. Casting off classism meant defying thousands of years of faith-based indoctrination.
Today, most capitalist nations are ostensibly secular, or at least exist in cooperation with faith in a way that permits pluralism. Boundaries are strictly geographical, and cultural and ideological exchanges can occur between almost anyone almost anywhere. Governmental authority in most countries is no longer linked to religious faith, so socialist ideals do not necessarily need to contradict any particular religion. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.
You’re Mormon and you call yourself a socialist?
Socialism is the antithesis of religion.
They also claim to be a Satanist. Anything is possible if you lie hard enough!
And why would I lie about that? I forget…
You can’t be a Mormon and a Satanist at the same time, quite obviously
What made you suddenly decide to unblock me btw?
I think OP means the part where both emphasize taking care of your community, since that can be done with or without religion. Some ideas are so good that many groups adopt them.
Religion has very flawed ideas regarding community, however. It always results in a hierarchical structure and works to exclude those who don’t abide by its values.
It is possible to be a good, selfless person and be religious, but I don’t think it’s possible to have religion without enabling power-grabbing, insular practices too.
You’re exactly right, friend. I don’t believe in all the Mormon religious stuff, but I like the culture, hard work ethic, health attitudes and ideas on education. I’m a proud Mormon socialist.
Early Mormon teachings included giving up all your property to the community. Maybe they took that to heart?
Actually lotsa Mormon causes overlap a lot of socialist causes. Not every Mormon is a conservative.
Not really. Socialism is a broad term with a lot of meanings. People often assume socialism requires antitheism because specific Communists venerated the state above all, and pointed to religion as a competing priority. Marxism was born in a context where the Church was seen as the ultimate authority. Monarchs and oligarchs claimed divinity as their reason to rule above all. Casting off classism meant defying thousands of years of faith-based indoctrination.
Today, most capitalist nations are ostensibly secular, or at least exist in cooperation with faith in a way that permits pluralism. Boundaries are strictly geographical, and cultural and ideological exchanges can occur between almost anyone almost anywhere. Governmental authority in most countries is no longer linked to religious faith, so socialist ideals do not necessarily need to contradict any particular religion. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.
Great post!
Actually Mormon causes overlap a lot of socialist causes. Not every Mormon is a conservative.