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    18 hours ago

    I would call what’s happening in Palestine beyond Biden’s meaningful control.

    He can cease arms shipments to Israel, but not without losing the election by angering the Jewish voters, and then Trump will nuke Gaza and build one of his high-rises on the rubble. That would solve nothing.

    Take it up with Netanyahu and his Israeli supporters. They’re the ones who decided to bomb the hell out of Gaza, not Biden.

    BTW, Lebensraum involved taking people’s houses, not blowing them up.

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      18 hours ago

      That got me winded since I’m on my phone, I forgot to mention the nuke thing. What is stopping Israel from nuking Palestine is a trifecta of linked issues

      • expending its deterrence versus Iran

      • counterattack which could flatten Israel is possible without nukes, and has been saved up already (this is not a joke)

      • counterattacks against US oil interests in the region

      It’s not about the unlimited might of the US being held back by goodwill. There are very real limitations, the Pentagon planned on doing what it’s being forced to do with Iran to China. Plans are scaling down all the time.

      By the way the 170,000 pounds figure was from what they dropped on a single city block.

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      18 hours ago

      Dude your worldview is completely based on news headlines and dem memes I don’t have time for this. Consider this a brief overview of stuff to consider and maybe redirect your energy to something better than saving the reputation of the dems, which they certainly will not help you with.

      The talking point that Trump is more Hitlerian due to being a threat to the institutions of bourgeois democracy is more credible than the “harm reduction to domestic minorities and global south countries”, but fortunately most people aren’t goofy enough to think that it matters if yet another president oversteps legal boundaries. Fascists rising only had to get rid of bourgeois democracy because power was not secure. Zero institutions in US democracy hinder fascists. The democrats refuse to undo conservative power grabs out of false pragmatism as they already got what they wanted, power within the system over their lessers. Like you view me, like a rube who needs a scolding.

      Biden’s branding of Reluctant Hitler has been slapped on the most lenience Israel has ever been given. Harris has also been clear that nobody will stop Israel from dropping 170,000 pounds (multiple Hiroshimas) of US bombs on Palestine and Lebanon.

      Biden has been even more extreme on border issues than Trump 1, and Trump 2 will be even more extreme than Biden.

      They are both worse than Hitler in their own way because they run a well-oiled empire not a cannibalistic aberration. Our cannibalism of Europe is financial, not via real land grabs.

      Please consider how much more there is to our lives than the general election. This is an opportunity to talk to people about what is being omitted from both party’s platforms.

      Anyways Jill Stein for the general or fuck you find me a candidate that isn’t Hitler.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m sure that Gish gallop would make Vance proud, but you’ll have to do better than that if you want to fool me.

        You’ll also need another account, because that one is blocked. Good day.

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          6 hours ago

          LOL, funny, well she’s not perfect to me.

          Personally I think the degrowth politics of US greens is too close to NGO nonsense but at least it is actually against the genocide. Wouldn’t be surprised if they turn around and demand poor countries denuclearize. Would not be surprised if she began talking about the evils of ROSATOM sending nuclear tech to Africa.

          Then again, the US nuclear industry is famously wasteful and dangerous, so it could simply be a reaction to that, along with it maintaining our arsenal.