• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    I think the real issue is that no viable alternative is presented to most people.

    As Marx said, “the ideas of ruling class are the ruling ideas”

    The alternatives presented are Russian-style authoritarian oligarchy, Islamofascism, or a Venezuela-style “socialism” in which the narrative only focuses on poverty.

    Funnily enough you are proof of your previous statement above. The ruling class is presenting any, both better or worse alternatives to you in such form that you immediately dismiss them.

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      5 hours ago

      What gave you the idea that I’m dismissing them? I think you’re confused.

      Good quote tho

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        5 hours ago

        What gave you the idea that I’m dismissing them?

        You, you said “Russian-style authoritarian oligarchy, Islamofascism, or a Venezuela-style “socialism” in which the narrative only focuses on poverty.”

        This is blatantly false. And you don’t even know what the alternatives are or aren’t. Russia isn’t an systemic alternative, it’s the very same capitalist as in west, just 100 years late and too late to develop imperialism, it’s only a political alternative which forced them, after over 2 decades of trying to join the capitalist core, to finally oppose it. Islamofascism is such a fucking blatant Bush-era propaganda that i won’t even comment on that nonsense. Venezuela don’t even have socialism, again it’s not an alternative, it’s a capitalist economy which was forced into politically opposing capitalist core because of over century of brutal exploitation by that core.

        All three examples your presented are the same narration (even more extreme in case of islam) than the billionaire owned western media oligopoly and their political arms like US DoS spreads. You don’t try to know more (some of examples are in this very thread, and the actual alternatives like China too), you dismiss them in the exact manner the capitalist core ruling class wants you.

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          4 hours ago

          My friend, you are still confused.

          I was giving the framing that comes from the billionaire owned western media oligopoly position.

          that isnt my position

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            44 minutes ago

            So you do not believe those? Could you elaborate what you think is the alternative for billionaires and especially capitalism?