Teddy (left), and Sampson (right)

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    9 months ago

    Just a head’s up but not a single police department in the nation DNA tests or even has a spot on their reports to label which specific breed of dog caused the attack, there is also roughly a dozen different breeds on the list of dogs commonly mistaken for pits.

    Anybody telling you pits are responsible for any percentage of dog attacks is lying by giving a number not scientifically achieved.

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      9 months ago

      there is also roughly a dozen different breeds on the list of dogs commonly mistaken for pits.

      Do you have any evidence to support this statement? It would need to be pretty substantial to offset the large proportion of Pit Bull breeds.

      I dont say this to be dismissive, I would actually be pretty interested in reading what you have.

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          9 months ago

          Just a head’s up but not a single police department in the nation DNA tests or even has a spot on their reports to label which specific breed of dog caused the attack.

          Your link doesn’t address the point you made above, it’s just a list of dogs mistaken for specifically “American pit bull terriers”, it doesn’t mention police DNA tests or reports, it says nothing.

          Besides im talking about Pit Bulls in general which (Per the statement I made previously to another commenter on this post) is an umbrella term for several types of dog believed to have descended from bull and terriers. In the United States, the term is usually considered to include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and sometimes the American Bulldog.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

          Additionally the list you provided is half-filled out by the dogs that come under the pit bull breed. It even states that many dogs fall under the pit bull specification, which is why it singles out the American pit bull terrier in order to draw a distinction to them rather than say American Bullies.

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        9 months ago

        When my dumb ass downstairs neighbor hears the kittens playing, she flies into a rage about my pitbull making noise. The hate causes the statistics, not the breed.

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      9 months ago

      In 2009, the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia released a five-year review of dog-bite injuries. The review states that 51 percent of attacks were made by pit bulls.

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19644273/

      In 2009, another study was published by the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology. The study ran for 15 years and it has concluded that pit bulls, German Shepherds, and Rottweilers are among the most common breeds that cause fatal dog attacks in Kentucky State.

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19696575/

      In 2011, the Annals of Surgery published a study, which concluded that Pitbull attacks lead to more expensive hospital bills, higher risk of death, and higher morbidity rates compared to other breeds of dogs.

      https://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx

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          9 months ago

          Doesn’t mean it’s wrong either; try to provide something to say otherwise.

          Also how old does data need to be before it’s dismissed as ‘too old’?

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            9 months ago

            That’s up to you.

            What other subjects do you accept almost 20 year old data on? Do you go back 50 years? What is the cut off for you in all subjects, or is pit bulls the only subject you don’t have a standard for?

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              9 months ago

              did pitbull behavior change in 20 years. they suddenly became goody good dogs?

              i’d say it’s relevant until today and well into the future.

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      1 month ago

      Uhm….what about 99% of videos ever posted about someone being attacked by a dog. And nobody is surprised when it’s a pitbull.

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        1 month ago

        To be clear, people who advocate for the extermimation of all bully breeds are not claiming that pitbulls account for 99% of all attacks.

        So right out of the gate you have decided to make the point you are “debating” more extreme than the most extreme right wing nutcases already part of the conversation.

        Better luck rage baiting somebody else. Maybe start out reasonable and then ramp up the insanity slowly instead of coming out of the gate so hot next time.

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          1 month ago

          To be clear, I said “99% of videos ever posted about someone being attacked by a dog. And nobody is surprised when it’s a pitbull.” YouTube “attacked by dog” - it’s almost always a pitbull. You misconstrued what I said, and twisted it into some crazy “right-wing” topic. You’re simply wrong.

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            1 month ago

            I’m not looking at 99% pit bull attack videos though on YouTube.

            Now, everybody has a different search results targeted directly to them by Google. If Google is only showing you pit bull attacks, it’s because they decided that is the content you are willing to engage with.

            And seeing that you create accounts to argue 8 month old comments that are defending pit bulls, it seems pretty clear that Google has assumed correctly about you.

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              1 month ago

              I just started using Lemmy. But thanks for responding to an old comment!