• airportline@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    That’s not the issue. The issue is that it’s impossible to even have a nuanced and honest conversation about it because any hint about it gets automatically removed.

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      2 days ago

      What nuance do you want for an event that didn’t occur? Yeah let’s have a nuanced discussion about Saddam’s WMD now we’re at it.
      Also you can have a discussion about it in china and just with chinese people in general. Just not with a chatbot or as some inflammatory forum post. Which, frankly, is ideal, considering what doing fuck-all about disinformation has brought us in the west.

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        2 days ago

        What do you mean it didn’t occur? Something obviously happened, and it’s only a question of whether my government’s version of the events is true.

        My entire RedNote feed Americans whether it’s true that George Orwell books are banned in China (they’re not), and Chinese asking whether it’s true that American schools have shooter drills. Of course I’d like to ask them about the first thing most Americans think of when they hear the word “China.” Unfortunately, I can’t, and I’m stuck with only one version of the events (and I’m not going to rely on Western Hexbear users to get the other version).

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          2 days ago

          and it’s only a question of whether my government’s version of the events is true.

          That’s easy, it never is.

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            2 days ago

            Sorry, but I want to hear it from a real Chinese communist, not a western YouTuber. Find me a BiliBili (or Douyin or Rednote) video on the topic.

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                  2 days ago

                  Damn, who could have guessed your arbitrary debatelord requirements would make it so difficult? Learn mandarin ig

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                    2 days ago

                    That’s the point.

                    I can accept that the Western version of the events are exaggerated. I can accept that the US has done worse things to it’s own citizens. I can accept the protestors had poor motives.

                    I am begging the CPC to propagandize to me, so that I can become even more pro-China.