• finitebanjo@piefed.worldBanned from community
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    NATO is preventing war and the expansion of authoritarian states across the globe, so yes, in a roundabout way, it is.

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      22 hours ago

      And what a great job they’re doing! There’s definitely no double standards here, oh no. *cough Israel *cough.

      NATO only acts to prevent the expansion of the United States’ rival imperial powers, like Russia and China. It’s nothing more than a military alliance of western powers to maintain US hegemony. It’s all well and good that it resists and deters Russia imperialism in Europe, but it has zero interest in stopping US imperialism in the middle east as carried out by the US’ favorite proxy state and stationary aircraft carrier, Israel. NATO isn’t attempting to maintain peace in Europe out of a genuine desire to protect human life, but simply to preserve the status quo and balance of power.

      And if you’re wondering how Trump wanting to leave NATO fits into all this, it’s precisely because NATO preserves the balance of power. He thinks he can benefit from destabilizing the political climate of the world because he’s a scumbag who takes advantage of chaos to advance his interests, and he doesn’t care if other authoritarian leaders are able to do the same. The US could lose global standing, but that’s a risk he’s willing to take if it helps him consolidate power internally.

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        Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.

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          Again your logic was anyone fighting authoritarians = good and fighting poverty.

          Trump uses the excuse of fighting China to fuck up the economy with tariffs that not only does nothing to hurt China but only screws over the American economy. But since it’s fighting China it’s therefore good by your logic.

          Trump literally attempted to leave NATO at the end of his last term and frequently talks about it this term. If this is how Trump fights against China then I supremely hope he sails away and starts fighting for the Chinese, soon.

          None of that is at all relevant to why you claim NATO is fighting povert. Or why that logic can then be used to imply trump good

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            23 hours ago

            You seem confused about how my question relates to the meme? It’s a litmus test for whether or not a person is the sort of Tankie who supports China sending Uyghurs to work camps until they die, who supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, who supports Pig Butchering Scams and Psyops which get people like Trump elected. If you wonder if a person actually opposes capitalism or actually just opposes western democracies, you can ask them their opinion on NATO and they will clear up any confusion.

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              23 hours ago

              And what does that have to do with your logic saying trump is good?

              Also a weird purity test for someone that wants a big tent party.

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                23 hours ago

                lmfao, I even already clarified Trump is sidingnot with me but WITH YOU on this issue.

                Not a purity test, a polarity test to separate us from enemies of mankind and themselves. Tankies are in the GOP base.

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                  14 hours ago

                  No you ignored it and deflected by saying trump wants to leave NATO which is unrelated to the logic of him being good because anti China.

                  Not a purity test, a polarity test to separate us from enemies of mankind and themselves. Tankies are in the GOP base.

                  Who do you think are the enemies?