Margaret Hamilton, NASA’s lead developer for Apollo program, stands next to all the code she wrote by hand that took humanity to the moon in 1969

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    1 year ago

    I don’t know how old you are but when I was first introduced to programming in the early 80s all “source code” (Mostly basic and thus interpreted where program is the source code) was referred to as “listings” (this was when the main source of games were monthly magazines where you typed in a listing from a magazine and saved it to tape E.G.. The “Program listings” (as the Smithsonian calls them) seem to be print outs of the programs for verification purposes.

    The process of entering was indeed handwritten, on specially printed sheets of paper that was then handed to a punchcard operator to create the cards (again according to the Smithsonian), But the stack of paper is clearly not those sheets as it is form-feed printer paper.

    It is completely accurate that Margaret Hamilton lead a team, so while there are inaccuracies I’d say this not as much of a lie as just a combination of confused concepts,

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      So I’m referring a number of articles that talk about it as “Listings” and “Log files”. They come from relatively good sources (Smithsonian magazine) who are interviewing curators of of the Smithsonian who claim to have “Those listings” in the picture. They do however refer to it as “program listings” and then just “Listings” in the article. So who knows.

      That being said I don’t agree with your saying “Well she led a team”… yeah she led a team, that’s like Elon Musk saying “I made a Tesla” when really he hired hundreds/thousands of people who made the Tesla. This is someone making an our right lie, there is no reason for it not to say “She and her team” or something along those lines.

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        So I’m referring a number of articles that talk about it as “Listings”

        So am I. I read that article as well and “Program listings” is IMHO definitive, a “program listing” is a list of the instructions in the program it is a term I used to use myself, it’s just fallen out of fashion. In addition this article shows form feed paper with a snippet of the actual code, one line per instruction.

        Also, it’s nothing like Musk, maybe you don’t work in the industry but a “Team lead” is a programmer, just with additional organisational responsibilities. If you read the rest of the article I linked there are those that consider her the first professional “Software Engineer”, and mistaking a team lead for the only member of the team is a common mistake, especially when they were the first programmer hired for the Apollo mission, It’s a mistake, I wouldn’t classify it as a lie.