What are they saying you’ll go to hell for then? Especially the ones mentioning sins or stumbling. Who’s the Christian God that exclusively decides what’s sinful again?
@HiddenLayer555 Which does not require following Jesus, yes. That is a comparatively novel implementation. But hey, congrats on being able to CTRL+F the bible for “hell” and then acting like you know anything about Christian theology.
Please enlighten me on how the Christian idea that Jesus is the only way to heaven, the thing pretty much every Christian church preaches and was used to justify forced conversions of Indigenous peoples as part of the genocide against them, as well as the enslaving of Africans by Christian landowners, both using the “we’re doing them a favour no matter how many atrocities we commit against then bevause we’re still saving them from eternal damnation in hell” rethoric, is actually not Christian. Jesus didn’t say the only way to “salvation” is through him? What does salvation mean if not avoiding hell then?
@HiddenLayer555 I have more respect for you than to believe that you can’t imagine how organized religion whose institutions had a great deal of power might get it into their heads to reshape their religion’s theology in order to say that one must follow that religion to be secure in the afterlife.
Jesus’s whole cult was about, yes, salvation through his sacrifice. This is Christianity 101.
how organized religion whose institutions had a great deal of power might get it into their heads to reshape their religion’s theology in order to say that one must follow that religion to be secure in the afterlife
That is a good point. I concede that. I’ve only experienced Christianity from mainstream denominations and I can see how that has biased me and poisoned my opinions of Jesus.
@HiddenLayer555 Golly, look at all those verses that say you go to hell if you don’t follow Jesus in specific.
What are they saying you’ll go to hell for then? Especially the ones mentioning sins or stumbling. Who’s the Christian God that exclusively decides what’s sinful again?
@HiddenLayer555 Which does not require following Jesus, yes. That is a comparatively novel implementation. But hey, congrats on being able to CTRL+F the bible for “hell” and then acting like you know anything about Christian theology.
Please enlighten me on how the Christian idea that Jesus is the only way to heaven, the thing pretty much every Christian church preaches and was used to justify forced conversions of Indigenous peoples as part of the genocide against them, as well as the enslaving of Africans by Christian landowners, both using the “we’re doing them a favour no matter how many atrocities we commit against then bevause we’re still saving them from eternal damnation in hell” rethoric, is actually not Christian. Jesus didn’t say the only way to “salvation” is through him? What does salvation mean if not avoiding hell then?
@HiddenLayer555 I have more respect for you than to believe that you can’t imagine how organized religion whose institutions had a great deal of power might get it into their heads to reshape their religion’s theology in order to say that one must follow that religion to be secure in the afterlife.
Jesus’s whole cult was about, yes, salvation through his sacrifice. This is Christianity 101.
That is a good point. I concede that. I’ve only experienced Christianity from mainstream denominations and I can see how that has biased me and poisoned my opinions of Jesus.