it’s an eyesore to use the app with the down vote icons since my instance disabled them. when you click on them they work but obviously it doesn’t actually do anything (the animation works but the down vote isn’t registered since they’re off on the instance)

it would be nice to hide them altogether like in eternity for lemmy.

thanks :3

  • ben_dover@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    is there a way for 3rd party clients to know whether it’s disabled, can the info be fetched via the api?

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    11 months ago

    Would be great if it had a general prohibition symbol over it, instead of being removed.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      11 months ago

      i think an option would be nice but the problem is that it’s just wasted space in my case because it’s not necessary on my instance.

      this is what it looks like in the ui on my instance:

      (not meaning to argue; just explaining! :))

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        11 months ago

        Ah, I see. I didn’t realize those instances actually blocked down votes for posts in other instances as well.

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          11 months ago

          yeah it still works like i think other instances can downvote people on instances with it disabled; it just won’t be shown to the people on those instances (it never goes below 1)

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              10 months ago

              don’t understand what you mean? the content is the same as any other lemmy instance that federates? it doesn’t stop inter instance federation. it’s an instance primarily marginalised people that don’t care about downvoting.

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                10 months ago

                It inhibits your instance from filtering content at all, and prevents your instance-native content from self filtering before reaching larger feeds.

                It also demolishes your ability to natively deal with problem comments without mod or admin intervention, which adds more work to moderation while also making power mods more powerful.

                Lemmy is aping the reddit design, which has downvotes built into how the design inherently filters content. Removing the user driven content filter without redesigning the way the site works usually just makes problems. Like if mastodon removed retweets, or something.

                The analogy isnt perfect, but its like a go cart without breaks. Normally, anyone can tap the gas or break pedal once each, to speed up or slow down a post or comment. A shitty go cart (both shit as in poor quality and shit as in bad/bigoted/counter community) gets its break slammed by multiple people, and stops in its tracks. Great stuff gets the gas slammed and flies forward.

                But without the break, users cant slow anything down, just hope no one else speeds it up or that it gets pulled from the track. This makes brigades easier, absent mods more noticable, and bad faith mods harder to push back against from the community.

                These issues only really metasticize if a larger percent of instances block downvotes. But it will hamper content coming out of bahaj if the instance population starts to really grow.

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                  10 months ago

                  This is only true if you consider popularity to be the end-all determinant of quality content. Plenty of shit gets downvoted solely because people disagree with it.