• Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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    3 months ago

    This is why I say a much more interesting question is what came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?

    It entirely depends on your definition of a chicken egg. Is a chicken egg an egg that hatches a chicken, or an egg that is laid by a chicken? If it is an egg that hatches a chicken then the chicken egg came first, but if it is an egg that is laid by a chicken then the chicken came first

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      3 months ago

      You cannot have a chicken without a chicken egg. And the egg comes first.

      It’s the paradox of the heap

      At some point the pre-chicken will lay a chicken egg and a chicken will be born

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      3 months ago

      If a chicken egg is an egg that hatches into a chicken, then unfertilized chicken eggs would not be chicken eggs. But if you took an alligator egg and transplanted a developing chicken embryo into it, that would become a chicken egg.
      You’d get the heuristic “All chickens have hatched from chicken eggs”, which sounds pretty elegant.

      If a chicken egg is an egg laid by a chicken, then you couldn’t reliably say that a chicken egg hatches into a chicken - the heuristic from before would become “Not all chickens have hatched from chicken eggs”. And that one, while it feels a bit imprecise, might be closer to what we observe in reality, especially with that Proto-chicken argument. So the Proto-chicken would have laid a Proto-chicken egg, which hatched into a chicken, which laid chicken eggs.
      And it would work with the current scientific hijinks like hatching chickens from different eggs or straight from test tubes.

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      3 months ago

      If I say “my penis”, it is likelier that I am talking about the one attached to me rather than the one I bought in the market.

    • Spice Hoarder@lemmy.zip
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      3 months ago

      I will opt for the Minecraft spawn egg logic. The chicken spawn egg was first.

      What came first, the oak tree or the acorn?