Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.

“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.

The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.

“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”

Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.

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    Of course they don’t. But making wild accusations and insults is a lot easier than reexamining their positions.

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      How completely naive. Is this your first or second election? Your moral black and white approach is incompatible with the real world. A vote for a 3rd party candidate is essentially a vote for Trump in the way American elections work. That’s a fact.

      This is as idiotic as the “Bernie or bust” people.

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        But since, like I said, making wild accusations and insults is easier than reexamining your positions, you have chosen to belittle me personally.

        Let’s examine the centrist thought-terminating cliches one by one, shall we?

        How completely naive.

        It’s not naive to notice that centrists sling abuse when their positions are challenged from the left. It’s all they do when they know they’re wrong. Supporting genocide is wrong, by the way. I have to tell you that because I’m not certain you’ve ever considered that it might be undesirable.

        Is this your first or second election?

        This one is neat because not only does it contain the ageist assumption that anyone younger than the speaker must be wrong, it’s also gaslighting.

        A vote for a 3rd party candidate is essentially a vote for Trump in the way American elections work. That’s a fact.

        This is now the fourth time in this thread that I’ve had to clarify that I’m voting for Biden, because centrist Democrats immediately assume that any condemnation of his support for genocide is advocacy for not voting, voting third party, or voting for Trump. He still shouldn’t be supporting genocide. He still needs to stop. He still cannot expect the votes of anyone for whom his support for genocide is a dealbreaker until he ceases his support.

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          “He still cannot expect the votes of anyone for whom his support for genocide is a dealbreaker until he ceases his support.”

          And my point is that those people would be foolish in throwing away their votes. If Trump wins, it’ll be even worse for everyone involved. The only way to make changes in this two party system is to make sure the current extreme right wing Republican Party falls apart, forcing them to the center. This would allow the democrats to shift back to the left as they should be. Having our choices as a literal dictator and a very centrist Democrat are not great choices.

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            And my point is that those people would be foolish in throwing away their votes.

            Foolish or not, they exist. If Biden wants their votes, he cannot continue to support genocide.

            And no, that wasn’t your point. It might be your point now, but that’s not what you led with. Your initial replies to me were all baseless accusations, incorrect assumptions, gaslighting and abuse. None of those are points.

            The only way to make changes in this two party system is to make sure the current extreme right wing Republican Party falls apart, forcing them to the center.

            And we do that by… supporting genocide?