I agree with you definitions and reasoning, I disagree that prudence and decorum don’t serve in some circles.
Prudence and decorum just change to fit the context of the circle. For those who have little to lose but their own life, prudence may take the form of kindness and charity. Decorum is just upholding a tradition within a circle, and traditions form at every level of society to keep what works moving forward.
I would argue that prudence and decorum are good tools to have no matter what circle you move in, you just have to adapt the tools for the job :/
Agreed, and these might be expressions of kindness, respect, and other genuine virtues.
For example, prudence can mean wisdom, care warranted and given, or simply an instance of thoughtful behavior.
Likewise decorum can refer to respectful behavior, honor deserved and given, even a gesture of good faith participation in what others value simply because you recognize it its important to them, part of them, and you want them to know they’re accepted.
But just speaking directly, I’m not sure OP was demonstrating a lack of any of the above simply by the mildly lewd joke. Even of her grandmother was scandalized (pretty sure she wasn’t) it’d only be indecorous/unthoughful/unseemly/unkind if that was her intent.
Given that perspective, and noting your authoritative grasp of normal family and interpersonal relationships, I figured you were lamenting that kids these days fail to accommodate the conservative mores of their elders with the level of dedication and precision that we achieved at their age. Forgive my misunderstanding.
I agree with you definitions and reasoning, I disagree that prudence and decorum don’t serve in some circles.
Prudence and decorum just change to fit the context of the circle. For those who have little to lose but their own life, prudence may take the form of kindness and charity. Decorum is just upholding a tradition within a circle, and traditions form at every level of society to keep what works moving forward.
I would argue that prudence and decorum are good tools to have no matter what circle you move in, you just have to adapt the tools for the job :/
Agreed, and these might be expressions of kindness, respect, and other genuine virtues.
For example, prudence can mean wisdom, care warranted and given, or simply an instance of thoughtful behavior.
Likewise decorum can refer to respectful behavior, honor deserved and given, even a gesture of good faith participation in what others value simply because you recognize it its important to them, part of them, and you want them to know they’re accepted.
But just speaking directly, I’m not sure OP was demonstrating a lack of any of the above simply by the mildly lewd joke. Even of her grandmother was scandalized (pretty sure she wasn’t) it’d only be indecorous/unthoughful/unseemly/unkind if that was her intent.
Given that perspective, and noting your authoritative grasp of normal family and interpersonal relationships, I figured you were lamenting that kids these days fail to accommodate the conservative mores of their elders with the level of dedication and precision that we achieved at their age. Forgive my misunderstanding.