• Calfpupa [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    Yes they are proletariat. In fact, there are a few billionaires that also fall into this group (I believe LeBron James). If you have to sell your labor, you are being exploited and a prole.

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        5 days ago

        In reality: they don’t.

        In their minds: they fear losing that paycheck just like everyone else.

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        5 days ago

        Billionaires that were labor originally still had to sell their labor at that time. I suspect some there may be some theory that argues that said billionaires are no longer working class when they cease working and are no longer dependent on their labor, but I am not sure how that’d differ from someone using their labor to get lucky in the stock market and retire early.

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          4 days ago

          That also makes them no longer working class.

          There is a big difference between a retiree and someone that never had to work.

        • tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden
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          4 days ago

          Pretty sure as soon as you don’t have to sell your labor anymore to live a somewhat decent live*, you’re not working class anymore, independent of how that happens. Working class background or something.

          * That’s a bit subjective of course, but at billionaires levels it’s pretty clear