Some of the weirdest peer pressure i have ever seen. Well adjusted people who drink don’t care if their friends/family/rec league teamates or whatever drink. That whole isolation think sounds like what a frat bros tell freshman.
I’m not pressuring others. I’m noting the sense of social pressure I myself have experienced and acknowledge. If I’ve had a few and even just want to stop for the night and drink water but persist and socialize: if someone I know asks if I want to join for shots, the sense of disappointment if I say no is very noticeable. Even if they say “I don’t want to pressure you to drink” its obvious that they’re subtly offended at no, even if I end up saying “fuck it I’ll join you”.
If I order a non-alcoholic drink at a lot of bars, even the bartenders get a tad visibly annoyed. If I order something alcoholic, I’ll get encouragement, like “right on” or “fuck yeah”.
Well i sure have no reason to doubt your experiences, and yes I have noticed similar. Even with decent people who arent trying to put on the pressure. Guess just the way I read your first comment.
In my experience tho, bartenders are usually the best at being understanding. I order one ginger ale (i prefer that over plain tonic water) at a bar and they tend to understand right away and keep me topped up.
Some of the weirdest peer pressure i have ever seen. Well adjusted people who drink don’t care if their friends/family/rec league teamates or whatever drink. That whole isolation think sounds like what a frat bros tell freshman.
I’m not pressuring others. I’m noting the sense of social pressure I myself have experienced and acknowledge. If I’ve had a few and even just want to stop for the night and drink water but persist and socialize: if someone I know asks if I want to join for shots, the sense of disappointment if I say no is very noticeable. Even if they say “I don’t want to pressure you to drink” its obvious that they’re subtly offended at no, even if I end up saying “fuck it I’ll join you”.
If I order a non-alcoholic drink at a lot of bars, even the bartenders get a tad visibly annoyed. If I order something alcoholic, I’ll get encouragement, like “right on” or “fuck yeah”.
Well i sure have no reason to doubt your experiences, and yes I have noticed similar. Even with decent people who arent trying to put on the pressure. Guess just the way I read your first comment.
In my experience tho, bartenders are usually the best at being understanding. I order one ginger ale (i prefer that over plain tonic water) at a bar and they tend to understand right away and keep me topped up.