My 2019 VW GTI has this, not because it’s electric and has no engine, but because the sound dampening between the engine bay and cabin is so good that the engineers thought it necessary. It’s the first thing I disabled. So dumb.
I’ve been driving electric for nine years. I very much enjoy the silence. And I would still like fake gears for the funsies, doesn’t even need to include fake sounds.
Annectodal, but whatever acceleration curve Toyota uses in its hybrids makes me sick so quickly. I haven’t had many problems in Chevy PHEVs or EVs, teslas, or Kia EVs, but I do often get motion sick in ICE vehicles. Not as badly as Toyota hybrids though.
I’m not sure how much mass they have, but they have a full ICE engine plus batteries. It could just be an issue with how much it weighs and the suspension. I somewhat doubt it’s the acceleration curves alone, but I don’t know. If it doesn’t happen in other vehicles, it seems odd that it’d be that specific curve that’s the issue.
People get motion sick in EVs because they are heavy and the suspension has a hard time damping. It has nothing to do with “ICE feedback”. It’s the same effect as seasickness.
I do wish they had better soundproofing though. No engine noise means you hear all these annoying sounds from tires on the road unless you turn your radio up to ear damaging levels. On my commute there is an area that had temporary lane markings during construction and the method they used to remove them roughed up the tarmac in a way that makes the tires go “meep meep meep meep” while you drive over them, and they’re right where most tires are when driving in the middle of the lane. When I drive my IC car I can’t hear them, but if I’m driving my wife’s EV I either have to hug one side of the lane, crank up the radio, or have my nerves set on edge by this horrible sound.
EVs all day in general, I’ll make the switch when the time for a new car comes, but this aspect of them does suck.
Thank you for your diagnosis Dr SaveTheTuaHawk, rest assured I’ll give it exactly the amount of weight it deserves.
I’m pretty sure most people find irregularly spaced high-pitched buzzing noises unpleasant; smoke detectors don’t play lullabies for a reason.
The lack of engine noise making every road sound and creak from the car audible is a common complaint. Just because EVs are superior, doesn’t make them perfect.
It’s a common and totally fair enough complaint in terms of subjective aesthetic enjoyment, but it’s not physically possible that the lack of engine noise results in overall more noise which would make it necessary to turn up the stereo louder than otherwise necessary in order to drown it out. Combustion engine cars have tires too.
Oh no, obviously overall they’re quieter, that’s why you can hear all that stuff. It’s always been there, just masked by the engine. I’m saying IC engines act as a kind of white noise machine that drownes out the rest, and in the absence of that, my only option is louder music.
And again, I’m not knocking EVs in general, they’re superior and I’m making the switch next car purchase, but if it was possible (I know it’s not) to get Rolls Royce levels of sound proofing without unreasonable costs, I would prefer it.
WTF
Aah, it’s for jerks
As long as you can turn it off… People who want that really do baffle me, though
My 2019 VW GTI has this, not because it’s electric and has no engine, but because the sound dampening between the engine bay and cabin is so good that the engineers thought it necessary. It’s the first thing I disabled. So dumb.
I want that. It sounds genuinely fun. Hyundai’s Ioniq 5 N has that sort of thing and it got a ton of positive reviews.
It’s something you think you want, until you hear silence.
I’ve been driving electric for nine years. I very much enjoy the silence. And I would still like fake gears for the funsies, doesn’t even need to include fake sounds.
By petrol head idiots who think popping exhausts are cool and attract women.
They think jerking back and forth and making noise is “soul”.
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I’ve heard of some people feeling motion sick without the same feedback as an ICE vehicle. Could be helpful for them.
Annectodal, but whatever acceleration curve Toyota uses in its hybrids makes me sick so quickly. I haven’t had many problems in Chevy PHEVs or EVs, teslas, or Kia EVs, but I do often get motion sick in ICE vehicles. Not as badly as Toyota hybrids though.
I’m not sure how much mass they have, but they have a full ICE engine plus batteries. It could just be an issue with how much it weighs and the suspension. I somewhat doubt it’s the acceleration curves alone, but I don’t know. If it doesn’t happen in other vehicles, it seems odd that it’d be that specific curve that’s the issue.
might just be their suspension setup on the hybrids
I remember when I test drove a fourth gen Outback and it felt worse than a van. that was enough to prove they had killed the wagon for good
People get motion sick in EVs because they are heavy and the suspension has a hard time damping. It has nothing to do with “ICE feedback”. It’s the same effect as seasickness.
Hearing things is also a form of sickness … Is that why they mimic ICE car feedback on sailboats, trains, bicycles and walking shoes?
They could have leaned into it and have F&F mode where it’s just up shifting constantly as you’re cruising at 30mph
We can have it use the mario64 infinite staircase music method.
Shepard tones?
Maybe they could make a mode where the electric vehicle UFO noise they make so you can hear them coming gets louder when you accelerate
It would be funny of people hacked it to play whatever sound it wanted like the pacman wakwaka sound.
We call it the ghost taking a shit sound.
Sound like movie the dilemma
Fake car engine sound
I do wish they had better soundproofing though. No engine noise means you hear all these annoying sounds from tires on the road unless you turn your radio up to ear damaging levels. On my commute there is an area that had temporary lane markings during construction and the method they used to remove them roughed up the tarmac in a way that makes the tires go “meep meep meep meep” while you drive over them, and they’re right where most tires are when driving in the middle of the lane. When I drive my IC car I can’t hear them, but if I’m driving my wife’s EV I either have to hug one side of the lane, crank up the radio, or have my nerves set on edge by this horrible sound.
EVs all day in general, I’ll make the switch when the time for a new car comes, but this aspect of them does suck.
EVs have special low noise tires with a foam liner. Also, you have misophonia.
Thank you for your diagnosis Dr SaveTheTuaHawk, rest assured I’ll give it exactly the amount of weight it deserves.
I’m pretty sure most people find irregularly spaced high-pitched buzzing noises unpleasant; smoke detectors don’t play lullabies for a reason.
The lack of engine noise making every road sound and creak from the car audible is a common complaint. Just because EVs are superior, doesn’t make them perfect.
It’s a common and totally fair enough complaint in terms of subjective aesthetic enjoyment, but it’s not physically possible that the lack of engine noise results in overall more noise which would make it necessary to turn up the stereo louder than otherwise necessary in order to drown it out. Combustion engine cars have tires too.
Oh no, obviously overall they’re quieter, that’s why you can hear all that stuff. It’s always been there, just masked by the engine. I’m saying IC engines act as a kind of white noise machine that drownes out the rest, and in the absence of that, my only option is louder music.
And again, I’m not knocking EVs in general, they’re superior and I’m making the switch next car purchase, but if it was possible (I know it’s not) to get Rolls Royce levels of sound proofing without unreasonable costs, I would prefer it.