In order to work less (fewer hours or more time off), we need legislation that restricts work hours and requires companies to grant a minimum amount of time off. I agree with the sentiment that AI could free us up for more leisure, but in the absence of legislation, companies will just squeeze more productivity out of each worker without granting more leisure time.
Legislating capitalism is like cupping your hands under a tap and hoping the sink below never gets wet.
Blood from a stone.
Very true
That’s not how the economy works. Unless there’s no human work to do at all, most will just be pushed out of their comfier thinking jobs into physical labor jobs.
Thats not how productivity works. We dont just stop at slave labor we industrialize everything.
run a business. it’s unsustainable to be kind to your employees because your competition won’t. capitalism is fractal, you can understand it at every level by comprehending any individual level. you need secrets, cleverness, ruthlessness and sustainability.
Sorry but thats just not true. You better believe the kind employer has the best talent. Its just… well if youve never experienced what it is to work with talented people…
You are filled with life and love and optimism and that combination deserves to thrive. I don’t think you understand markets yet, but I hope you have the greatest success.
This guy is part of the real problem.
Our little chimp brains equate power over others with success, detached from results.
If someone isn’t hurting, it’s not working, so the infinite leisure created by automation becomes infinite time to discover how to hurt people and torture each other.
If it’s not suffering, it’s not hustle.
What fresh new horrors await when results are even MORE detached from individual power trips.
No, youre just stuck in the mindset of the ruthless manipulator. No good thing came about though ruthless capitalism. Capitalism feeds on the rotting corpse. The left overs of innovation.
The ruthless manipulator is the dominant group. I’ve grown empathy on purpose over decades, so yes it’s natural that i understand bad people better than people who didn’t work hard to do so
The dominant force is only 30% of whatever group. The other 70% are sympathetic. The foundation is held up by belief and fear. It would only take a small group with a united message to shake it to the ground.
Lots of people are saying that what are you talking about? It’s just not any of the Epstein class.
‘supposedly love’… someone didn’t get enough hugs growing up.
How many hugs is enough hugs?
Another question, what was the appropriate amount of hugs that you obviously recieved?
One of my secondary school teachers once remarked that you need at least 3 hugs a day. She also qualified that by saying you get to decide what counts as a hug, because some people are more comfortable with handshake (or analogous) than a hug.
Having a 5 year old, 3 hugs a day is insane. I get more than 3 hugs in the first minute of my kid waking up. I’m already scared knowing their cuddliness won’t last forever. The first time I’ve spent one day/night away and I got so touch deprived by 5 pm I almost started cuddling my friend.
I like hugs but wont go in for one. People scare me, or really, they make me anxious.
Yeah, that’s one of the reasons the “Free Hugs” persons at PLUR-positive festivals and events exist. They want to give hugs to the people that want them but are scared to initiate. The sign is supposed to puncture the anxiety cloud, but it doesn’t always work.
I hope you get all the hugs you want, even if you never find the “courage” to go in for one.
I have kittens, they are less scary and more cuddly.
i have been , hell go all the way back to Bertrand Russel, he does as well, see his treatise “In Praise of Idleness”, famous economists like Maynard Keys projected we’d all be broking 15 hrs a week now for the same pay.
Productivity increases have gone to the very wealthy and we’ve voted for it, over decades, over and over and in the face of all that evidence ? we’d fuck in’ do it again, Leopards Eating My Face is full of examples. Solutions ? there arent any, the world has to many hateful and stupid people easily led by physcopaths and grifters . Not just the US, it’s near ubiquitous.
Because no one thinks the owners of the tech would be so benevolent.
Speak for yourself. I have been a 4 day work week advocate for eons.
People don’t love their families though. We saw that during COVID when parents went nuts because they were force to stay home with their kids.
I loved having us all home together, and I actually grew closer to my kid during COVID. Our relationship got stronger as father and son because he saw me so much more since I wasn’t in an office and commuting for like 10-12 hours of my day. It was so fun to do little science experiments and teach him some fun life lessons.
I’m an outlier though. I love being with my wife and kid, and they love being with me. So many parents are always bitching about their kids or spouses and then pawning the kids off on others. Our house is the hangout house and so many of my son’s friends feel safe stopping by just to say hello on their way home from school.
I guess this is why I have successfully made a career switch to teaching. I genuinely think kids are pretty cool and worth our time!
In america
We see it every summer when parents ship their kids off to summer camp.
exactly, parents use K-12 schools as daycare and parenting, disciplining. thats why some grow up dysfunctional in some form or another(usually way after HS).
also getting pets for the wrong reasons during covid, to cope, and when its lifted they were back at the shelter eventually.
How could we maximize productivity if we allowed people leisure?
Make working fun! Jk
I guess because nobody who works closely with AI would seriously believe they can run shit by themselves.
Oops cats out the bag.
I am.
My dream job is being jobless in a world where everything is automated.
Mine is having a job automating everything.
Can we be friends?
HELL no! We can work even more overtime and make even more money for our billionaire masters!
Why didnt I think if that. My bad.
AI bros dont understand the concept of “love”.
Can a robot love?
Bicentennial Man says “yes”.
The techbros advocating for the ai don’t have families they love. At best, they have trophy family.
Really flipped that on its head
AI doesn’t exist. LLMs aren’t doing anyone’s jobs.
They help search for stuff, like finding molecules and DNA strands in medicine. Finding a book out of an entire library. Boilerplate code. Frequently asked questions. That’s all they do. Parroting, searching, and other menial tasks that can be done thanks to prediction.
People may save time thanks to them, but they still have to do their jobs.When an “AI” appears to show any kind of competency outside of being a glorified search engine, it’s because they have an underpaid human behind it actually refining the results.
Search engines changed the world. I agree, we shouldnt grant inanimate objects qualities of humans but that what we do.
You might be too young to understand how good search engines USED TO BE. With determination nothing was impossible, there’s nothing line that today, not even AI
Rose tint glasses much?
The best was just putting reddit after everything.
That was only like 5 years ago.
Bah. The best search results were clearly more than a decade ago. Even a decade ago too much SEO manipulation (and search engine collusion) was showing up in the search results we saw.
I don’t agree that the best search was regular expressions and Boolean combinators ala AltaVista. Early Google was quite the improvement (and still had some advanced operators), and even the first release of Bing was almost as good. Anyone remember the Bing v. Google challenge MS encouraged people to do? I picked my own niche interests and while Google won, Bing put points on the board.
I think it was sometime after AdWords and DoubleClick merged when things went downhill. I don’t remember the exact timeframe, but eventually the advertisers and SEO parts started directing search from the inside, things steadily decreased in quality. Adding “reddit” to the end of a search was a entry-level way to fight against that, not a return to old or new peak search quality.
The problem back then is there was not a lot of content. It was just a sheer lack of credible sources for common topics. Reddit and Wikipedia bridged the gap but of course they want to rape Wikipedia and have already dismantled reddit.
I agree Wikipedia was a pretty poor hit in '98, but by '06 it was pretty decent.
The one thing I will admit is, game guides migrating to YouTube and not just some text file I search through has ruined the format irreparably.
I guess wikis help but they are often too much of a project then just writing it out so they go undeveloped.
you are VERY young, then. i have success-tinted glasses from 2004, nothing delusional about it. learn about regular expressions and be amazed, you can even call it AI if it keeps you interested in it
Give me a break. Quit trolling
I’ll repeat myself, learn regular expressions. it’ll unlock real interest in you, and banish a lot of your mysticism
Give me an example
