• humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    had stolen a pack of diapers. The women exited the store with the child as officers arrived, entered their vehicle and began to leave the parking lot. Officers drew their weapons, and Vellesiya Wiley lifted her son up to show the officers that a child was in the car. One officer fired into the vehicle, killing the baby as she held him.

    stealing diapers or bread, should be a lesser crime, than stealing jewelry or clothing. Neither should justify shooting when running/driving away. If they put their hands up holding a baby, they are unlikely driving super fast, and may in fact doing step 1 of surrendering.

    Even if a diaper thief were to use a hostage as human shield, shooting is only legally justified in Israel, where hannibal directive extended to civilians is part of their non-negotiation hatred towards the “palestinian problem”, and where Mississippi has and may still view violent oppression as the preferred “solution” to their racial tensions.

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      Any kind of stealing. I don’t care if they stole a diamond or the Mona Lisa, that doesn’t deserve the death penalty, much less an extrajudicial killing.

      But as the other 49 say: thank God for Mississippi. And as the other 190 say: what the fuck is happening over there?

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        This world is ripe for an uprising against the ruling class and their bootlickers. The problem is getting everyone to agree on what they want.

        I just have a constant pit in my stomach, knowing every day the constant thoughts in my mind egging me into impulsive action may one day lead me to do something that in the end will just be used as “moral” fodder against neighbors and people I care about.

        But truly, when is enough, enough?

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          This world? Have you seen the French like every other year? Hungarians?

          It’s mostly americans that just complain online and do nothing. Ice kills people on the street? My boss won’t let me protest. The president steals a few billions? That doesn’t affect me. A new war doubles the price of gas and sends groceries through the roof? Oh, DC is too far away…

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            To your last point, The distance from Paris to Moscow is 1500 miles, while the distance from los angeles to NYC is over 2500 miles.

            For the rest, yeah it’s ridiculous, our turnout is not even a 10th of what it should be considering the insanity

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              The distance from Mombasa to Bangkok is 4500 miles. Which is equally irrelevant for protesting against literal murder.

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        Folks like to pretend Mississippi is the exemption. The bitter truth is that they’re just more naked in their cruelty.

        We’re seeing Italy and France dissolve into police riots and neoliberal poverty just on the other side of the pond. We saw the same in Baltimore and St. Louis not that long ago.

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        The only possible reason to shoot a thief imo is if they perhaps stole firearms or explosives, as one could reason they are stealing them imwkth I tent to cause great harm. But fucking diapers? Hell a car? It’s just stuff 🫪 not to mention these stores all have theft insurance anyways!! Or it’s been accounted for (see inventory “shrink”)

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        I often find myself sharing similar thoughts when reading comments that seem reasonable at first, but go off the deep end.

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        The Hannibal directive, is an official IDF protocol to kill captured soldiers. Oct 7th reaction included both mass shooting through civilian hostages on the day, and Helicopter mass firing on anyone running at the music festival. The genocidal bombing campaign that followed was specifically to avoid negotiations by exterminating hostages too.

        So, your “tinfoil hat hasbara” bs disgustingly masks a far worse/extreme Israeli attitude towads “palestinian problem” than Mississipi’s historical attitudes towards “dealing with the negro problem”, which is if you lynch a few regardless of any guilt, it will teach the rest of them to stay in line.

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          No man, the problem is that you brought something completely unrelated to the post up. The complete blindside of a transition from one subject to the next in a completely unhinged manner is the “tinfoil hat” I’m referring to.

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            Don’t shoot when a human shield is being used is police training in most places. The transition is hateful supremacist cultures get “government justification” for it.