• 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    a big part of the protest is the spike in cost of living, which has spiked due to fuel prices.

    it isn’t 100% on Iran, but they had a part to play.

    that is what happens when you let a rouge terrorist state start wars with US backing only to lose them.

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      10 hours ago

      Israel is doing America’s bidding, not the other way around. They are entirely dependent on US aid for their security and economy, how could they not be a puppet?

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        Tail wagging the dog situation. Netanyahu has pitched decapitation strikes and and a bombing campaign to every president since Bush 2, and they all turned him down. Trump fired his military advisors from his first term so there was no one left to explain why that was a bad idea.

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      What has the fuel price done about cost of living so far? UK here and I haven’t really noticed anything changing. My mortgage continues to get cheaper relative to inflation, electricity has increased by so little it’s also dropped relative to inflation. Not really noticed much change in the price of food either, we still spend less than £30 a week between the 2 of us.

      Almost all of the cost of living is housing with everything else pretty much being pocket change in comparison. Just after I bought house prices appear to have started stagnating which is a bit annoying for the timing of it but should help bring the relative cost down for new buyers if it continues.

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        Literally every single thing that consumers use on a daily basis needs diesel to get to them. Oil goes up, diesel goes up, everything goes up.

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          Sure, but its a tiny fraction of the total cost and diesel has only gone up a little bit. So maybe my oats cost a single penny more now? Oh no, they barely cost anything anyway.

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            tiny fraction of the total cost

            No, it is a large portion of the total cost.

            diesel has only gone up a little bit.

            Wew lad. It was 3.70 one year ago. Now it’s averaging 6.20 in the US. That’s a 60% increase.

            maybe my oats cost a single penny more now?

            My guy, you are in for the worst shock of your life within the next 6 months, lol. You are so blissfully unaware I honestly don’t want to pop that bubble. I hope you have a good week.

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              you are in for the worst shock of your life within the next 6 months,

              Heard that one before. Diesel has only gone up 40% here in the UK. Even if diesel was 100% of the cost (it isn’t), that’s a 40% increase in my oats? I mean realistically I would notice it in the shop and then continue to not care. Still doesn’t really sound like that big of a problem compared to the cost of housing tbh.

              Quick edit: mentioned before about house pricing potentially dropping/stagnating here, is that happening elsewhere or is it still rising uncontrollably? Still short term but I hope it spreads into a longer term trend everywhere as that seems like it would help people a lot.

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                10 hours ago

                that’s a 40% increase in my oats?

                No, it’s a 3.5% increase cost in your oats based on inflation numbers.

                It’s not a lot, but for some people that’s the difference between having oats today or having hunger for breakfast.

                You’re really out of touch with how precarious people’s lives are.

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                  If we reduced the cost of housing by 1% you could buy more oats than you can eat. Even if the oats doubled in cost.

                  Pay rise without housing going up by as much or more would also have a similar result.

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                    Yeah no shit, but the price of housing keeps going up and the price of oats keeps going up. Both things are getting worse now, whereas before housing was expensive but you could at least still afford to eat.

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                11 hours ago

                Maybe your just really really really bad at noticing things. maybe “but it’s not happening to me personally” is a terrible and inaccurate assessment of the global economy. Just food for thought.

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                  I have noticed where all my money goes throughout my life, and its not oil or products which require it. Its banks and landlords due to the high cost of housing.

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                    Do you eat food or wear clothes? Do you have to go places besides your backyard? Is there paint on your house? Plastic? Medical equipment?

                    You seem extremely ignorant to the fact that oil is everywhere in our lives now. You’re probably literally wearing an oil product at this very moment, lol.

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                Right, it’s only a 40% increase in the price of every good that requires transportation

                Before you factor in corporations taking advantage of the demand to gouge prices, which as surely as the sun rises, they will.

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                  Don’t forget a 40% increase in the price of transporting fuel, which means fuel transport is less profitable which then has knock on effects as well

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                  it’s only a 40% increase in the price of every good that requires transportation

                  No, it isn’t. Fuel isn’t 100% of the cost of products, it isn’t even 100% of the cost of transporting them as you have workers and maintenance costs too. Fuel is actually a pretty minor cost of products overall.

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        Oil has an outsized impact on how inflation is measured, so prices not growing faster than inflation when oil prices are high still leaves lots of room for them to grow rapidly. As well as that, for most people, things going up in price is already a problem whether or not inflation is higher, especially when inflation’s so far above the target rate of 2%. If it was just a short blip of inflation being above 2%, then it wouldn’t be so bad, but because it was really high for a while, lots of people already burned through any buffer they had.

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          Even in absolute terms I don’t really see much difference in things I buy. Mortgage is much more than everything else combined and its a fair bit lower than it was 3 years ago in absolute and relative to inflation value.

          The only stuff I kinda want that is going way up is stuff like GPUs or memory. Which let’s be honest, you can live without just fine.