• ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      They’ve been BPA free since 2008… So… Plus I’ve heard they’re finding lead leaching into water from vacuum sealed metal bottles. Can’t win.

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            9 months ago

            Switch to goat bladders.

            • naturally produced
            • reasonable capacity
            • durable
            • biodegradable
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            9 months ago

            I mean, plastic is not the only thing you can make a bottle out of. Metal or glass could be appropriate options, perhaps.

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              9 months ago

              Glass breaks, metal has the aforementioned lead problems. I shall create a water pouch from the bladder of a steer.

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                9 months ago

                It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out if there’s lead in a metal bottle I think, but I see your point for sure. It can be hard to find non-terrible stuff.

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                9 months ago

                Glass is much better because it has no taste. I would expect people to care about that if they use it all day. How often do you break a glass bottle? That’s the thickness of glass you need.

                My grandfather has a glass Gatorade bottle he still reuses. That’s the kind of shit I expect from today’s hipsters. Do they even retro bro?

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                  9 months ago

                  I’d honestly love a glass bottle if it doesn’t break. The only downsides are weight and fragility. To be fair I’ve never tried. But I’ve smacked my water bottles against doorframes while in my backpack, dropped them on rocks while hiking, etc. It’s gonna get knocked around. I’d be concerned about getting soaked with water and shards of glass everywhere.

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                  9 months ago

                  How often do you break a glass bottle?

                  I broke 3 glass water bottles (they even had the little rubber sleeves to try and protect them) before I gave up and settled for stainless steel. Twice I broke them in the gym. Really awkward trying to clean up glass and water without causing a scene.

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                    9 months ago

                    You are buying crappy water bottles. How often do you break a beer bottle? Those are much thicker than crappy water bottles. Acqua Panna bottles are even thicker.

                    I’ve never broken either one unless it fell on cement. Use cheaper glass bottles and stop dropping your bottles on cement.

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                9 months ago

                I’m a big fan of the single wall stuff. It works pretty well for water carrying at least. For hot and cold stuff you could always add a cozy. Certainly not as effective but no lead!

                On the other hand, I dream of the day when I make my own wax lined leather bottle like the days of old

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                  It seems to be about the lead welding they use to bind the parts together. So as long as it’s a single piece of metal with no joints, I guess it’d be fine. I just want a water carrier, doesn’t need to keep things hot or cold. I’m becoming jaded with hearing about how all my very basic household items are actually killing me.

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          Heavy and fragile. Fine for around the house but a poor choice for throwing in a gym bag and should not be used near pools or other bodies of water where broken glass is an invisible hazard.

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            9 months ago

            Death!

            Still even if you store it sideways at all times, you’re still reducing plastic contact/leaching by what, 95%? Or more like 100% if you use a glass straw and store it upright.

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        Can you link anything for lead getting into the water? I’d be interested. Everything I’ve read about it (with respect to the Stanleys) says it’s virtually impossible to be in contact with any lead containing bit unless you’ve purposely damaged the bottom and are basically licking it. One of the quoted experts was says depending on where you are in the US, your tap water is a much more likely vector of lead exposure.

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          I can’t, I’ve heard it in passing, so very well might’ve just been some doomer bullshit or sensationalizing the facts. It seems that it’d be unnecessary for them to use lead at all in the creation of a drinking implement, but I’m no material scientist. I guess I’ll have to look into it more.