What does he think will happen here?
If you trick the person making $135k through a few interviews, they won’t change their mind and take the lower paying position.
You still end up hiring the $75k person, but with extra costs, overhead, and waste of time.
HR loves to do busywork, its to prevent themselves from being unemployed.
It’s almost as though you’re not supposed to get that person because you’re not fucking paying enough for their talent… 🤔
To be fair, there’s plenty of $135k people who shouldn’t even be making $40k for their “talent”.
Meritocracy is a myth.
Right exactly, if you want someone already making $135k then you should offer $135k or more.
Requiring salaries was passed as a pro-labor move. We know it increases wages over time. That’s the point.
HR would like to see you. We’ve had reports of you using toxic “logic” and propaganda on the floor.
If you wanted someone making 135k to come work for you, then you should probably pay at least 140k.
Greed. The answer is always fucking greed.
Well if they are unhappy with their job you could probably offer the same… But I am not switching jobs from something I like to something unknown without a minimum of 10%. So $150k is more reasonable.
This.
Going from a reasonable job to an unknown is a significant risk, it needs to compensate that risk appropriately.
If I hated my $135k job, I may take a very small pay cut but I’d really have to hate the current place, enough so that I couldn’t stand a few months more of searching for something better.
If I like my current role, well that risk premium grows significantly. They’d also have to find me, I’m not actually looking if I like my job.
That’s just me showing my poverty. 5k would be a lot for me, but not for someone who made 135k a year.
…yes?
That’s exactly why we want them…?
I mean… that’s exactly what’s happening right now for us. Those fucking idiots at HR don’t want to pay higher salary, so we get people with mediocre talents, and the odd amazing person who will soon grow dissatisfied once they realise what they are actually worth, and how much they’re getting shafted. The whole model is built on deceiving good people long enough to use them. Because in their head, people are all interchangeable. They absolutely do not understand the benefits of continuity, and the impact of turnover. It’s just so fucking exhausting to be faced with such stupidity.
so you rather waste all the time going through all the interview process for them to reject your offer during salary negotiation phase, and then after enough times they just stopped applying to jobs without a salary range and you are back to your shitty limited pool
I’m not even bothering with no range posted. At this point I’m also not waiting until the 14th interview to ask about salary because it looks bad. I’m asking in the first 5 min. And if there are more than a few interviews that shows me they have no industry knowledge or contacts and that’s a red flag.
He’s so close to a realization…
The problem with r/SelfAwareWolves is that they never were, they were never actually aware unless they were actually being sarcastic.
It’s almost like if you want talented people, you need to pay more for 'em. Weird.
He’s confused. Can you ELI1 for him?
Goo goo ga ga fuck CEOs
How to say “I’d pay you less if I could” without saying it. What that clown doesn’t realize, is this post he made just cause a fuckton of people to pass on his shit.
I interviewed for a lab position, everything was going great, and then this fuckwad from HR said starting was $18ph for a job with a required BS and multiple years of experience.
GL with that one, LMAO.
Made me understand why the reviews for the company from customers were so negative though.
this like for most biotech jobs out there, its why most people dont go into bio/tech research foot in the door they first put up that barrier as a listing , and it becomes a catch-22, its a law of diminishing returns for the industry. plus they also have preference of which “group” they will hire. im not surprised theres a bait and switch. dont know how often bio uses linkedin, but ive seen people have thier profiles for thier bio experiences if they are in that industry.
“We’re trying to trick you into giving us more value than we pay for.”. What a genius…
that’s literally pushing wages down. fuck the free market let’s rig it for myself to profit.
this is straight up quiet part out loud stuff.
…yes, that’s the point…
Why are these shallow, vapid, stupid, pretend-smart pieces of shit in front of companies? Like, how the fuck have we built a society in which these idiots are successful? Holly fuck.
Because capital is more important than human happiness in our arrangement of society.
