Something that i find prettyd disgusting these days is how certain people put their political ideologies / viewpoints over human lives, for example, celebrating the russian invasion of ukraine because it is “a blow against US / NATO imperialism” completely ignoring all the warcrimes, the deaths, and the suffering generated by that war, the same happening with the palestinian genocide because “Israel is the only working democracy on the middle east”, acting like their ideoligies are going to bring back to life all the dead people somehow

  • Syndic@feddit.de
    161·
    7 months ago

    Well Putin for sure would be happy if Ukraine would choose this path. He’s quite used to brutally squash dissidents. Russia also has absolutely no qualm to disperse a group throughout their country to destroy their cultural identity. They are already doing so with the Ukrainian children they’ve kidnapped.

    So sorry, but your proposal seems to be really naiv and not taking into account how fucking brutal Putin’s Russia is to people stepping even slightly out of line.

    • KISSmyOS@feddit.de
      26·
      7 months ago

      your proposal seems to be really naiv and not taking into account how fucking brutal Putin’s Russia is

      Pacifists are always confronted with this criticism. Every time:
      “This war is different. This war is justified, cause this attacker is truly evil. We need to stop this evil guy by all means necessary, even if it completely destroys the country we’re trying to defend and kills an entire generation of its inhabitants.”

      I’m not naive, at all. I have no illusions about Russia. I just believe there is no option available that will save Ukraine, and war is always the worst option available. No matter how justified it was in the beginning, in the end all that’s left is war.

      • The Snark Urge@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        7 months ago

        Two things can be true:

        1. War is the worst outcome
        2. Fighting evil is the right thing to do

        We don’t get to live in a world where doing the right thing is always simple and easy, or even a good option.

        • KISSmyOS@feddit.de
          14·
          7 months ago

          Your comment has nothing to do with what I wrote.
          But yeah, I’d rather have Ukrainians spit in my face than go to war.
          I’d rather be killed by Russians than go to war, for that matter.

            • KISSmyOS@feddit.de
              11·
              7 months ago

              What do you do when one of those people target you or your family?

              I defend myself and my family, with deadly force if necessary.
              But as I said in another comment, war isn’t self defense. It’s defense of the nation, which is something completely different, although nationalists like to pretend it’s the same.