Yeah. Using “women” as an adjective may be more socially acceptable than using “female” as a noun, but it really shouldn’t be.

You could have just said you don’t understand the difference between defending a socialist revolution and capitalist wars of Imperialism. The demonstration wasn’t necessary.

A vasectomy, mostly. I did try to get into some studies for things like IVD, but that never materialized either.

I was shocked at how easy it was when I got to the NW and just…walked into a Planned Parenthood and scheduled the appointment.

Florida in the late 90s/early 00s was very “unreal”, but it’s gotten worse every time I’ve gone back to visit.

They’re anything bus serious, but that does appear to be what they’re suggesting, yes. Typical pronatalist nonsense.

As a man who’s been very sure he wanted to remain childfeee since his teens: most surgeons won’t sterilize men on request either. I was told several times to come back after I was married with at least three kids. Had to move to the literal opposite corner of the country to a place where Planned Parenthood isn’t under constant assault to get a vasectomy after decades of chasing one.

Because if you ask a forced birther to be ideologically consistent they will shit themselves and start screaming until you apologize for ever questioning the righteousness of their imaginary friend.

So it is, misremembered it.

Remember Peter Capaldi’s monologue as the mycologist in the cold open of The Last of Us?

Nothing that was already good has ever been improved by mayonnaise. Mayo is a topping people put on mediocre and boring foods to make them edible.

If this is them being serious, I’d hate to see them clowning.

Mayonnaise on grilled cheese is an abomination.

For the absolute best grilled cheese ever just put sliced cheese between two slices of bread, drop 2 tbsp (28.5g for those of you not using freedom units) of butter in a pan just hot enough to make it sizzle, put your sandwich in the melted butter and flip after 3 minutes.

Edit: got so worked up about the mayo abomination I forgot what I came here to say. My food hack is self rising flour in anything that used the flour, salt, baking powder trio. Easier, quicker, and no chance of messing up the ratio and getting crackers instead of biscuits.

We have a lot of center right politicians, most of the Democratic Party fits that description. They’re only “left” of the Republican party. They are not objectively on the left. The furthest left flank of the party (like Pramila Jayapal or Adelita Grijalva) could maybe be seen as center left, but the majority of the party is firmly right of center.

Yeah, I was a single digit age and it was the 80s. Some adult told me “life’s not fair” and didn’t have a good answer when I asked “then why can’t we make it fair?”. I’ve been outraged at the people who won’t make it fair ever since.

Clearly you don’t love having the giant Bronze-age patriarchal bullshit sized holes in your reasoning pointed out.

Go on pretending anyone who isn’t exactly the same kind of ascetic you are is just a “Treatlerite”. It definitely doesn’t make you look ridiculous to leftists and liberals alike.

I think people should have sex with who they want. Not who they are forced to because of poverty.

Fine. Me too. But I also think people should speak to and do nice things for who they want, not who they’re forced to because of poverty. But you put sex work in a different category from customer service or the service industry in general. The only way that works is if you think sex is magical and different from conversation or service. And the only way that makes sense is if you’ve swallowed the bronze age bullshit sexual mores that dominate most of the world today.

And you’re still absolutely refusing to engage with the actual point, so I have to just assume you’re being disingenuous at this point.

Why are there so many Nazi soldiers on that list?

Ok, I get it, you believe very passionately in bronze age sexual mores. You don’t have a persuasive case to make that the things you’ve listed here are unique to sex work, nor have you addressed my point about other forms of exploitive labor and marginalized people. I suspect that’s because deep down you know there is no case to make there, unless you start from the position that sex is special and magical, and you’re simply not used to arguing against someone who explicitly rejects that presupposition.

Also. My previous Links were from university websites. Research articles about published peer reviewed articles and Wikipedia articles to define definitions.

Literally everyone can just scroll up a few replies to see that it’s exactly what I said: two Wikipedia articles, one opinion piece by an anti sex work crusader org with literal cops and Neoliberal politicians on its board, and a study that doesn’t control for any confounding factors (most such studies are funded by the LDS or Catholic Church, so they don’t control for those factors bcs they know they won’t get the results they’re being paid for if they do. Didn’t read far enough to know of your study is one of those, but statistically speaking the odds are good).

Have you ever considered which systematic aspects of our society fuel the patriarchy and inequality or do you think it just appeared one day and stays around for no reason?

I’ve read extensively on the subject and I will say again what I’ve said several times in this thread: 100% of patriarchy comes from the belief that sex is special and magical and from that the ideas of virginity and purity come to guarantee paternity and maximize the selling price of daughters, from there comes almost all of the forms of patriarchy.

Now if you can explain without any magical thinking or putting sex into a special category just why you think that sex workers arearginallzed and exploited in a way that is materially different from undocumented farm workers, please do so. If not, please shut the hell up, because it’s now painfully obvious to everyone that your magical thinking doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny.

Sex is categorically not “uniquely intimate”. A stimulating conversation about a subject you’re both passionate about is a far more intimate thing that a drunken bar bathroom hookup.

That kind of magical thinking is the problem. It’s an incredibly slippery and not very long slope from “sex is a magical and unique form of human interaction” to “daughters are property of their fathers until they are sold and become property of their husbands”.

leaves you with less options in your social life, pays barely enough to get by, and is way way more intrusive to the laborer. it’s clearly not like other work.

Yeah, I forgot about all the incredibly fulfilling fast food and coffee jobs that pay a living wage and are easy to get by on.

It clearly is like any other service work, unless you believe sex is a magical, special sphere of human activity. And if you do, then you’re thinking magically and not materialistically.

I literally gave multiple resources links in my original comment.

Wikipedia articles and opinion pieces by political advocacy groups run by Neoliberal politicians and literal cops aren’t very strong evidence of anything. The one actual study you linked, like most others in its (usually church funded) genre, just proves something anyone could have told you: marginalizing a group of workers makes them more vulnerable to exploitation and less able to seek legal help when it happens. Any undocumented farm worker could tell you the same thing.