Honestly I’ve always found the timer on the oven to be convenient enough for me. Maybe I’ll change my opinion once I have it at my disposal - it’s just not one of the things I’m constantly daydreaming about hah.

Oooh hadn’t thought about checking business hours! That would be nice too

Also sitting idly by wanting more people to talk about it! All I want it for is two features:

-converting units of measure hands-free in the kitchen(27 teaspoons to fl oz, as an example) -check the weather for the day on my way out the door.

IMO the inovellis are worth the price. I was in a similar boat - bought into the hue ecosystem (still think they’re worth the premium for how rock solid they’ve been). Plus the home assistant integration is sooo customizable: for all buttons (up, down, and config buttons) you can set an automation for single, double, triple, quadruple, and 5x button press. I have triple press on all light switches turn all lights on that same floor on/off, and quadruple press does all lights in the house (handy for when you’re on way out of the house or going to bed).

Still, can understand if you have way too many switches to make this economical. It’s not a problem to add a system of z-wave devices in the house too, but Ive never had a problem with zigbee and there seems to be more component options. IKEA zigbee devices are a killer value too!

One other option I don’t see mentioned here is wiring a Shelly relay behind your light switches. Your wife would never know they’re there (they install behind the switch in the junction box) and I believe they are very economical.

+1 for inovelli. Now that they’re generally in stock (got mine refurbished at a discount) I would use them across the board in a heartbeat.

You’re probably right. Would be cool to have on z2m, but it’s a pretty minor feature that I don’t think I’d use in reality.

Their ceiling light (T1M) works but you lose some functionality - basically can’t use animations for the ring light. Besides that it’s been solid for me.

Just updated this morning. Fortunately, the only issue I had was needing to add the “adapter: zstack” to the configuration of my z2m addon.

Fortunately everything appears to be very well documented on how to troubleshoot most issues but I’m sure people with older installations with lots of legacy code will struggle more (my zone deployment is only 1 year old for reference).

Woah really? I love learning such simple facts - thank you!

My favorite is Kalamata olives and pepperoni, but your post reminded me that fennel and sausage is easily a close second - did not expect to like that flavor combination at all (really just not a fennel fan). Everyone should try it if they get the chance!

FYI- I received an email the other day that sonos officially added voice control for Spotify!

lol I like that pause button idea!

Agreed to not overdo it. I’m trying to coach my SO on every automation so she can appreciate the added convenience too, which means keeping the automations logical and simple.

My one exception to this is two light switches that will turn all lights in the house on or off with a quadruple press, in case I’m on my way out the door or to bed and want to make sure I turn off any lights I forgot about. That one I figure has to be hard enough to press that someone can’t accidentally turn on the bedroom lights in the middle of the night.

The only thing inovelli is missing is presence detection. I have two of their upcoming mmWave switches on preorder that should take care of that though!

This is what I went with and god they are amazing. Automations can be made for pressing up, down, and the configure buttons for a hold, single, double, triple, quadruple, or event quintuple press.

The only challenge is remembering what all of your automations are! But I use the double press automation daily to save me from running downstairs to turn off the lights and could not be happier with this product!

I never thought I’d be the kind of person to use voice commands, but it is so nice to tell it to turn on the radio while I’m cooking dinner!

Can confirm timer works - set a 5 minute timer for playing music in the family room).

Spotify does work with Sonos now (I don’t use it but I have my account set up with it), but voice control does not work with Spotify.

Ok - agree to disagree! Just wanted to share my experience with the community on a quality local voice control that’s available today while the home assistant community works on these exciting developments.

I think an important correction here is that they say they will only commit to a minimum of 5 years of software updates after they stop selling a particular model.

Even then, there is no reason the speaker wouldn’t still work. To me, that sounds perfectly reasonable. There’s posts about a 15 year old play 5 speaker getting a firmware update within the last year even, so I think Sonos deserves credit where credit is due. They have a proven track record so far, but no doubt it’s something to keep an eye on going forward.

I don’t think Sonos gets enough credit for their local voice control capability. It can’t be integrated into home assistant to do anything beyond controlling the Sonos speakers, but I have been ABSOLUTELY blown away by how responsive the voice commands have been. Literally a 100% success rate after using it for a couple months now. It correctly interprets if you want to start/stop playing, can find music by the artist I want from Apple Music (not sure about other streaming services), and will correctly adjust playing status for a specific speaker if you say to adjust music on that speaker only - even if you command it from another room.

The best part - no bullshit worst responses about “by the way….” Like on Alexa. At most, you get a short response like “good choice” or “ok”.

Sonos isn’t cheap, but I would 100% buy them again every time because it just works.