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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • Cheers mate and I apologize for my tone which probably contributed to this conversation going in that direction initially. Sometimes that snark just feels so good haha.

    Personally I prefer to describe these types of governments as run of the mill authoritarian (or totalitarian if they progress far enough). I do think the ultranationalism and xenophobia is an important aspect of fascism though–that’s what makes them able to commit atrocities beyond just historical monarchies or other types of oppressive governments. The dehumanization of anyone who is different combined with that totalitarian power makes mass murder way more likely.

    I don’t see that in Venezuela right now but what I really wanted was for someone to make the case that it was rather than just saying they’re fascist because they’re bad. Yes, they are bad, but I really don’t like the simplification of complex political ideas down into quasi-slurs.




  • That’s the thing though. Those other three are pretty important.

    It’s not a troll, I just think fascism is uniquely dangerous and we should use words correctly. This is the same twisting of words that lets people smear Zelinsky or whoever as a fascist. You can always find some points of commonality but you need the whole definition to match, not just parts of it.

    And saying it’s open fascism is even more silly. It’s only open fascism if they’re self-describing that way. There aren’t any openly fascist countries today.