Lionir [he/him]

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Cake day: January 29th, 2022

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  • It’s a basic curl command, that shouldn’t be “arcane” if you’re setting up a server.

    This is the equivalent of saying that any instance admin needs to know how to use curl while most people have never used a commandline. Not only that but you need machine access to know the api key which I would wager instance admins do not necessarily have.

    I think this is the result of not prioritising work that makes moderation possible by non-technically inclined people and it is genuinely a failure of the system.

    The priorities of development on Lemmy are decided by developers and the people who are not are simply pushed away. Most community leaders and moderators are not developers. The mental gymnastics to justify this lack of tooling is tiring.




  • I think this is a pretty clear example of what I mean when I say that my work was never valued.

    I did do work that was non-code - I labeled tons of issues, closed duplicates and those which had already been fixed.

    I did try to write code contributions (here and here). One of which was rejected based on purely aesthetic preferences and whose follow-up PR was made dormant forever afterwards.

    I tried to help and contribute in the ways I could - apparently this work is just “negativity and complaints”.


  • But are my priorities not my own? Why is this such an affront that I choose what I think is important? Would you like it if I did the same to you, demanded that you change your priorities to do what I want you to do? What if there are thousands of other people asking you the same thing?

    When you accept donations and grants for Lemmy’s development and when you work with other people, I think it is normal and good to think about priorities in a more collaborative fashion. I cannot write rust code and many other people cannot do that. When their issues are left ignored, dismissed and repeatedly told that they have no input towards Lemmy’s direction - people tend to not want to work with you because they feel that their work is pointless.

    Why make an issue if developers admit to not reading them and not changing priorities? Why help towards a collective goal if everyone is just working on their own personal thing? As someone who is not good at writing code - it just feels like shit. My work felt entirely pointless because there was no way for my effort to amount to anything I wanted. Only people who can write code can actually influence the Lemmy project.

    I understand feeling burned out but I tried contributing, I tried making things better and all I was met with was “I will not change my priorities” or “I do not think it is valuable to try to bring direction in the Lemmy project” or straight up dismissal or silence. If what you wanted all this time was for you to work on your own thing with no outside input, well, all I can say is you’ve done good work to make that happen.

    I don’t think there’s anything left for me to tell you.


  • To put so much demands on so few people, entitled to their free labor while contributing nothing back, is a terrible thing to do to a person.

    I don’t know how you managed to do this in one thread but I’ll leave these two contradictions here:

    • Lemmy devs claim to both “work full time” on the project because of donations and NLNet grants so sublinks could never reach parity in a reasonable timeframe
    • Lemmy devs claim that Lemmy is all a labour of love and that asking for a change in leadership and priorities is just “entitled”

    Like, I’m not going to deny that entitlement in open source is a thing - it is a thing and it is awful.

    However, people are giving you their time, effort and money - you keep dismissing that and doubling down on erasing this work.

    I mean, unless you want to tell me how I’m acting entitled to your work despite spending countless hours trying to support my community, spending hours sorting through issues that Lemmy has to label them, spending countless hours advocating for people to make issues and for change in the Lemmy project.

    And after all that, trying to have any input on prioritising moderation was met with : (paraphrasing) “I will not change my priorities”, “I think you’re exagerating moderation issues, they work fine” and plain out refusing to acknowledge lolicon pornography as CSAM, refusing to acknowledge my request to put moderators in Lemmy’s matrix channels despite obvious problems during weekend.

    Seriously, I kinda expected better from you. I have no trust in Lemmy’s leadership and your response here just examplifies that.


  • How do I put this? If this is how you respond to criticism, and that’s what you’ve clearly shown repeatedly to do, then you should not be in any leadership position.

    You do not apologize even when you admit to be wrong, you blame others instead of taking responsibilities for anything that was said here. It’s entirely a dismissive response. You might not have noticed but people do not feel valued at all when they speak to Lemmy’s developers. Their input is dismissed, they are told to make issues that you do not care for and when they ask for something to be better prioritized, you effectively tell them to fuck off. You make people feel that their time and effort towards Lemmy is worthless.

    With the way you’ve acted, you have pushed back people from making issues, from contributing in code or otherwise, from wanting to host Lemmy and wanting to be associated with the project. Sincerely, all I can hope at this point is for Lemmy to be forked by better people or to be forgotten about.






  • I’m gonna be asking hard questions, I think, sorry about that. I hope you consider it tough love considering our past interactions.

    As an instance admin, I have some questions:

    • How are you doing? I know there was a lot of pressure when things blew up and it seems to be calming down a bit now.

    • How is Lemmy doing financially?

    • Considering past releases and their associated breaking bugs (including 0.18.3), what measures are you taking to help prevent that?

    • Can we consider the possibility of downgrades being supported?

    • Why are bugs affecting moderation not release blockers? Does anything block releases?

    • Are there plans to give instance administrators a voice in shaping the future of Lemmy’s development?

    As someone who is trying to help with Lemmy’s development, I have some other questions:

    • What do you think are the biggest problems with Lemmy as a software project and what are your priorities for Lemmy?
    • Considering fairly low amounts of developers contributing to Lemmy, how are you working to help new people get into the project?
    • Do you worry about the message it sends to potential contributors when the main developers are working on a different project which competes with the former? (Example: Lemmy-ui vs Lemmy-ui-Leptos)
    • Considering most work is done voluntarily, how are you trying to organize and prioritize work?
    • Do you believe you are stretching yourself too thin between Lemmy, Lemmy-ui, Lemmy-ui-leptos, Jerboa and Lemmy.ml? If so, what are you doing to help you focus?