The US would be decades ahead of China and the rest of the world if they’d had a communist revolution, agreed, but eventually I think an indigenous society like China would come out on top (not that it matters in a mutually-beneficial and cooperative world), whether it took a century or several, inevitably. The skeletons in the closet of the US would still hinder it at every turn… the unnatural population dispersion of a non-indigenously grown population and the results of settler-colonialism, racism, internal divide-and-conquer… the specific kind of settler-chauvinism in regards to the rest of the world (not comparable IMO to Han or even Russian chauvinism…)

For instance, among many things- I’ve always suspected one of the reasons for the fall of the Soviet Union, is that its primarily white and European population naturally felt they could “join” the west, or even just have a peaceful detente/co-existence with the west being seen as equals, human beings… (obviously even then the majority still wanted to retain the union, etc…) If the Soviet Union had been populated by African or Asian peoples instead I don’t think it would have fallen quite the way it did if at all. And this isn’t me saying “white people are inherently worse” (not at all), but the circumstances were different (or perceived that way in this case, anyways) and the population was more vulnerable as a result…

The issue with a society like the US is that it is built on basically all the evils/reactionary forces in the world, IMO… not to be defeatist as no matter what it would be a necessary and worthwhile venture, but I feel it would need to be constantly under a cultural revolution far more intense than that of China’s, to maintain the integrity of the revolution whatsoever. Especially with the state of US society in the 1920s (but even now) or the history of the US labor movement (a lot of good, a lot of bad as well undeniably) all the current chuds, would be converted into ““socialists”” the likes of which run the kibbutzes in Israel…

This. The South Korean military is literally subordinate to the US’ (on paper, “only in times of war”). Maybe they could break free, but until then the idea the US wasn’t involved in the motions of declaring and enforcing martial law, etc. is pretty laughable.

IMO it can always get worse. You can look to Ukraine and the Philippines as examples of just how bad it can get; at least for now they (Serbia, Hungary, Slovakia, Moldova, Georgia, etc) are ostensibly independent countries with some sort of self-interest and self-preservation.

It’s one thing to have a Franco or Salazar in power, and another to have a Horthy or Quisling. And there are all sorts of creative things the west can use a fully compromised Serbia, Hungary, Slovakia, etc. for (alongside the fact it would strengthen the western unified fascist front in the likely upcoming WW3), as can be seen with the Kenyan military police in Haiti, or the US’/western EU’s attempts to expand NATO activities to the entire globe (in Asia and west Africa in particular).

and yet the only thing the government is actually concerned with was civil unrest.

It makes sense, if you think about it. All our country’s problems are self-inflicted; the system is acting exactly as intended.

The individual culprits’ intents may not be exactly to revert the country back to feudalism (or to mask-off fascism), but collectively and effectively, it is what it is, and none of them are willing to change course (because it would eat into their bottom line). All the various rentiers that truly constitute the government and institutions of this country (the cartels/oligopolies, landlords, etc) are moving this country exactly in that direction.

Please, prepare the nukes, President Putin… My people long for freedom…

Seriously though, if it all comes down on our heads it may be more of a relief than anything else. Still better if it doesn’t get to that point of course, but whatever happens will be entirely the west’s fault and the result of the rest of humanity’s hands being forced into action, something that is even rather overdue.

Maybe she should piss her money and connections away (for research purposes) and then see how sound her economic evaluations are, then.

Hopefully India won’t play ball, considering the US has been encircling it with hostile regime changes and meddling even more than usual in its own internal issues. I’ve no doubt even Modi and the BJP, immensely flawed as they are, understand that the US is trying to tighten the noose on India, and dreams of using it like a massive nuclear Ukraine upon the Eurasian continent…

Pretty much. And those who aren’t high on their own supply are no better- all of them, they’re rotten to the core, and will do anything to cling to power and empire. That’s how they got to where they are, after all.

Honestly, in some ways I’m glad. They cannot and will not change, and they will bring down the justice and consequences of 500 years of barbarism upon their heads for it.

I just hope they don’t take the rest of humanity down with them, and that in time even the masses of the west will dispose of the trash before it’s too late.

It’s not like the word of a terrorist regime like the USA could ever be trusted anyways, but good.

I mean, I don’t want people to die

Hell, I’ll just say it outright- I do (though this is no statement of intent whatsoever).

Genocidaires should die. Imperialists should die. Those who gleefully engage in war crimes of the highest order should die. No questions asked; if they get better perhaps they can be spared (though that should be entirely up to the mercy or lack thereof of the victims or the judgement of the world at large IMO- and even then it is a matter of whether sparing them, taking the time and resources to rehabilitate them and keep watch over them is a risk that can be afforded). But getting better is to be done on their own initiative, if time and humanity happens to move past them (if the consequences of their actions catch up to them before they have made such a change) then whatever happens, happens- no tears shed, no spilt milk, nothing of value lost.

Personally I suspected it was something along those lines (of either #1 or #2). But the concept of #1 in particular is a certain kind of terroristic horror (that is exactly in character for the Isntrealis and the west in general) that would be concerning to learn of, if they have developed such a method. Both possibilities are horrifying, that said.

Whatever it is, admittedly- I hope that the end result is that the resistance (and the world at large) works to address these vulnerabilities, and that the process is reverse engineered or replicated in turn.

The hacking isn’t exactly surprising- but what the hell is up with the explosions? Honestly that is the real head-scratcher for me.

The first shooter was at least tangentially related to the ghouls that now own most of Ukraine (Blackrock), so there’s that.

It would be pretty funny. Though I don’t necessarily think they buy that shit (it’s not out of the question though). I expect they’re more pissed about all their plans like Project Ukraine getting derailed, and having actual “opposition” (still a neoliberal, somewhat neocon, hegemonist imperialist and racist- but they hate him for even the smallest of differences/not being of their number as I see it).

Alternatively, I’d like Trump to win and immediately (by necessity) begin cracking down on all those who engaged in lawfare against him, and against the deranged “totally not glowies” NAFO maniacs who have- by the looks of it- tried to take him out (or looked the other way at their assets who attempted it) twice at this point.

If “both sides” of the fascist establishment in the US could start killing each other off, it would be a win-win for humanity. The more destructive for the US fascist regime, the better.

Looking at the thread cfgaussian linked there’s honestly no doubt in my mind. Either CIA or CIA asset, it doesn’t get any more blatant than this.

I wonder if they have a point that Trump and the rethuglicans actually will be able to destroy the extremely miniscule amount of freedoms or privileges that Americans enjoy.

You mean, if Trump will be able to destroy those “freedoms,” before the liberals have the chance to do so? Maybe they have a point, but it’s not much of one (and they play an equal or greater role in accelerating this process IMO) and they don’t exactly promise to change the course (which they have been the ones to push through, more so than Trump and well before Trump was ever elected).

IMO- don’t fall for their schtick. Neither side has anything meaningful to offer (and refuses to offer anything meaningful) other than threats that the other will do exactly as they have and are blatantly intending- and fearmongering about the red/blue doing it first and “to the wrong people.”

And Klanmala and the “establishment” (liberal faux-progressive ghouls, as well as blatantly honest and murderous ghouls endorsing her like Dick Cheney- that alone should say everything) are guilty of far worse, and will certainly do far worse than the nasty orange man ever could (though it’s not for lack of trying).

Can we call them comrades if that’s their position? I’d probably hesitate to at least.

Not gonna lie, I hope that whatever is inflicted on the Palestinians, returns back to the Zionist occupiers and all those western devils supporting the genocide in full and then some.