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  • there are lot’s of areas where Viet Nam desperately needs investment and modernization, but Viet Nam has this delusional “we’d rather go it alone” attitude towards China, but warmly embraces western investments of any kind

    Many such cases in the global south, even in AES countries. Cuba is another example. A lot of problems could be solved by simply asking for help from either Russia or China, and i highly doubt they would refuse in most cases. But these governments do have to ask. They have to stop being so stubborn about it.

    I think it’s a mix of genuine concern about presrving sovereignty (or i guess you could call it pride) and the government’s fear of being accused of or seen as being a proxy or a vassal to a country that has been heavily demonized by the Western media (which reaches citizens in these global south countries too, unfortunately). Especially if the Western propaganda already accused them of being too close to these countries, they wish to go out of their way to show, including to their own people, that these accusations are false.

    It’s very unfortunate. One part of the solution is of course to reign in the West’s influence in the information space by establishing tighter control over foreign propaganda vectors, and building domestic alternatives for the media and online spaces. The other part is simply, unfortunately, time. The reason why Western investment is not seen in the same way as help from Russia or China, is because the West has been hegemonic for so long. Thus ties with the West are seen as “normal” and apolitical. But this is slowly changing as the West declines and China rises, and China becomes an indispensable part of global south economies.

    There’s been talk about building a nuclear plant, but it would probably take 30+ years and pretty much no one believe it will ever happen. Not unless we accept a lot of help from China.

    Or Russia. Russia arguably has the most expertise in the world on building nuclear power.




  • On the official government level the relations are pretty good from what i can tell. There are also extensive economic ties between the two countries and a lot of Chinese investment. And what lingering animosity there still is at the level of the everyday people seems to be entirely one sided. I have never heard anything bad from the Chinese side about the Vietnamese.

    All that’s to say that i think China and the Chinese people as a whole definitely would help Vietnam in case of a conflict with an outside power that doesn’t belong in the region.

    Would they help in the case of a border conflict with a neighbor, something like the recent troubles between Cambodia and Thailand? I think in that case China would try to make sure there was peace as soon as possible. War causes instability and instability is bad for the kind of business China likes to do (very different model than the US which thrives off of wars and instability).



  • This is so unsurprising it barely qualifies as news. Of course the Vietnamese military is preparing for that possibility. That’s what militaries do. They prepare for every eventuality. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had contingency plans in case of war with Cambodia, or Laos, Thailand, China, the Philippines, or even Japan. And of course they view the US as belligerent, they were being invaded by the US only fifty years ago, and all can see that the US is a rogue declining empire that is lashing out at everyone.

    Is it a likely scenario though? Probably not. It’s not impossible but it’s on the lower end of likelihood as far as which country the US will attack next. Still, always better to be prepared.