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Where did you get “it costs literally 12 cents a box”? Is that a random number for effect or do you have some insider knowledge and know that for sure?

Either way is fine with me, just curious because it seems like a very small amount after paying for the raw materials, the workers wages, the shipping costs, and the grocery store overhead, etc.

Anyone interested in a local llm should check out Llamafile from Mozilla.

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I think the issue is that there is sexual imagery of the person being created and shared without that persons consent.

It’s akin to taking nude photos of someone without their consent, or sharing nude photos with someone other than their intended audience.

Even if there were no stigma attached to nudes, that doesn’t mean someone would their nudes to exist or be shared.

So your point is that Russia does try to interfere in American and other foreign elections, they just aren’t very good at it?

The electoral college makes it easier for foreign actors to influence American elections. Instead of convincing 3 million people to change their votes from Clinton to Trump in order to effectively influence the election, the entities spreading FUD only need to influence a few thousand in key swing states.

From your Brookings article:

The bottom line is that the Mueller report clearly shows that the Russian information operations were highly adaptive to the political context in the United States, followed a seemingly well-thought out strategic plan akin to a marketing or public relations campaign, involved direction from Russian intelligence, and were incredibly effective in infiltrating American media while influencing public debate around the 2016 election.

The article from the Nation is a poorly sourced opinion piece from someone who seems to have a very poor understanding of how the Russian intelligence works. The key “gotcha” in the article is that IRA is not a Russian government agency, rather a private company run by Russian individuals.

This isn’t in contradiction to the Mueller report, it’s common for Russian intelligence (and other intelligence agencies around the world, including CIA and other American intelligence agencies) to use private corporations to carry their agendas. As pointed out by the Brookings article Russian intelligence directed the actions of IRA, even though IRA and its employees weren’t directly employed by the Russian Government on paper.

Also unnecessarily hostile.

I’ve read the Mueller report and nothing in there supports your claims, which makes your statement even more confusing.

From the Wikipedia article on the Mueller report:

The report concludes that the investigation “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities”.[4][5][6] Investigators had an incomplete picture of what happened due in part to some communications that were encrypted, deleted, or not saved, as well as testimony that was false, incomplete, or declined.[7][8][9]

More importantly:

However, the report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred “in sweeping and systematic fashion”[10][11][12] but was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.[13][14][15] It also identifies myriad links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies,[16] about which several persons connected to the campaign made false statements and obstructed investigations.[4] Mueller later stated that his investigation’s conclusion on Russian interference “deserves the attention of every American”.[17]

You’re being unnecessarily hostile. There is a lot of ambiguity in the statement as I outlined my comment.

If you can clarify the point they were trying to make that would be great, if not you’re proving no value to this conversation.

The point you’re trying to make here isn’t very clear.

Are you saying:

1. That Russia didn’t try to interfere with the 2016 and 2020 US presidential elections?
2. Or are you saying that Russia did try to interfere, but they were incompetent and couldn’t actually do it?
3. Or are you saying the Muller report clearly stated that there is a deep connection between Democrats and Russia, and only a much weaker connection between Russia and Republicans?
4. Something else entirely or some combination of all of these?

Lmao got em, take that France!

That’s “doing what you can and not taking responsibility for things that aren’t your fault”

I think it’s a combination of learned helplessness and an unrealistic expectation of your ability to affect change.

As of July 1st, 2023, there are 334,914,895 million people participating in the US political system, I think it would be a little ridiculous if every one of them could influence our government. Not all the people can vote, but they’re still participating in the political system whether they know it or not.

Each of these people have their own ideas, hopes, dreams, ideologies. It takes a long time to sway that much public opinion, even when you aren’t fighting disinformation campaigns from powerful corporations and state actors. Keep at it and have realistic expectations about the impact you’ll have and how quickly things will change.

Do what you can, live the best life you can, and don’t take responsibility for things that aren’t your fault.

Edit: corrected the population of the United States because people oddly focused on that part of my comment.

I’m a data scientist for a mid-size finance company.

My masters degree in statistics has been instrumental in my job, both in getting the job and using the skills I learned on a daily basis.

My degree 100% improved my life and opened doors for me that I wouldn’t even have known about without it.

I’ve had my eye on the Framework 16 and it has an option for an AMD processor and dedicated graphics card.

At the risk of sounding like a monster, I can’t think of a single main/side I wouldn’t combo.

Can you give an example that doesn’t go together?

Sorry for not making it more clear, that is an example of how FUD works and not something I know for certain is FUD.

It has a lot of the hallmarks of a Russian FUD campaign. It’s catchy, it’s easy to explain and understand, it has a very strong appeal to emotion, it’s easy for someone to participate in and feel good about themselves, it allows participants to feel connected to a cause without actually having to really do anything, it undermines Biden’s presidency to the benefit of Russia and Trump.

Given the timing, the nature of the campaign, how it seems to be spreading, and who benefits from it, I think that there’s a really good chance that Russians or some other group are amplifying and spreading the campaign even if they didn’t originate it.

I am open to the possibility that it’s a purely organic campaign, however we’re unlikely to ever know with certainty if the vote uncommited campaign is FUD or organic. Unfortunately that’s just the nature of FUD which makes it so effective.

Are you implying FUD is a conspiracy theory? Or that FUD exists on the fediverse is a conspiracy theory? Or that the recent “vote uncommitted movement is FUD” is the conspiracy theory?

Regardless, I’m not dismissing the vote uncommitted opinion, and I certainly don’t dislike it. Even if the “vote uncommitted” movement is Russian FUD I’m all in on it, and I’m even committed to taking it a step further because I’m so upset about the Joe Biden’s extreme facists policies.

You’re 100% correct, and I’m voting across the board for Republicans so that the DNC will stop running facist neo-cons. It’s like Biden’s policies have been written for him by Trump, absolutely sickening.

That’s an interesting take. It seems like this thread is about sending a message to the DNC establishment, but maybe I missed the restriction of “sending a message to the DNC, but only through the Washington state primary”.

There is no strawman, only lived experience.

I’m not talking about the primary, my apologies for conflating the two streams of thought.