• KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      9 months ago

      You likely mean “reasons of self interest” instead of “selfish reasons,” since you don’t appear to mean the statement with negative connotations.

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      Selfish reasons like wanting to be treated like human beings politically? Get married? Adopt kids? Get wedding cakes at bakeries without being shut out? Those kind of selfish reasons?

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          9 months ago

          I’m not gay.

          I’m not buying wedding cakes.

          I’m not adopting.

          CIS WASPs already own politics.

          Yet here I am, liberal.

          It is possible to care about other people and their problems without those problems being yours as well.

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                I’m trying to get you to see that the nature of the reasons are not what the selfishness was in reference to but rather their scope of caring. A hard right republican woman can think that she deserves to have an abortion herself but if she doesn’t care if that extends to others then she is selfish. If the percentage that mellow was talking about are only liberal because the issues listed impact them then that does kinda seem selfish. It is not a commentary at all about the rightness or wrongness of those issues.

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                  Trying to get me to see…?

                  Then you should she stated your case and avoided trying to be clever by asking the same question twice in some bizarre effort at a philosophical take, to what…make yourself appear smarter? To a question you’ve already answered for yourself? Ridiculous.

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      Being gay and Republican makes you an idiot. Republicans fought tooth and nail to oppose gay marriage and used all sorts of awful dog whistles around the gay community - there’s still a large contingent of Republicans that are fighting against gay marriage and, of course, they openly demonize another LGBT+ group every fucking day.

      I know gay Republicans exist but it’s fucking baffling.

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        Like the anti vaccine movement, many have forgotten the horrors of the past and feel like they can just discard the things that got us to where we are.

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          Just like how fascism is back. Generations die off, and (particularly if we don’t educate), people forget.

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                Nah. The generations that live through such trauma (such as the horrors of nazi Germany just as an example) and witness it first hand are the ones who work the hardest to make sure it doesn’t happen again. But once you’re a couple generations removed from it, that memory fades, and the ones in power stop caring as much about preventing it because they just never lived it. History always “repeats itself” for a reason.