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    9 months ago

    The most common cause of their anxiety — the future.

    Completely reasonable. I’m a Millenial and I also have a lot of anxiety about the future. Previous generations screwed us all really hard.

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      GenXer here. What drives me nuts is that climate change was taught to me as scientific fact in year 9, back in the early 80s.

      The science was clear but collectively every government said “well, I’ll be dead by then so why should we care now”.

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      Let me share a piece of advice I heard from my father:

      “It’s not a problem, we should really be worried about why NASA is covering up planet X”

      Checkmate climate anxiety. Your move…

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    Is it really a disorder if it’s just a normal response to circumstances?

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      9 months ago

      It’s a disorder if it gets in the way of your making profits for your masters.

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    To be fair, we have a much better understanding of mental disorders now. Back when I was little, people basically fell under four categories (and these terms aren’t my choosing, just what it was back in the early 80’s): gifted, normal, slow or retarded. That was the extent of our understanding. At least based on my personal experience in an american public school system. I’m sure for older generations things were even more misunderstood.

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    9 months ago

    Why wouldn’t one be anxious about impending environment crisis and inability of institutions to act quickly enough.

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      Because it is a slow moving event that will unfold over the next century.

      It cannot be both so incredibly anxiety causing and also lacking in any urgency at the population level simultaneously.

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        Even to generously concede your statement… you’re referring to the course of their lifetime, that century. By the end of which, apocalypse.

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          Not really, the apocalypse scenario was averted by the banning of CFCs, which were a much worse greenhouse gas that were on track to cause a 4+ degree rise instead of the 2 we’re on track for now.

          Also, it was an apocalypse scenario because the damage it was doing to the natural atmosphere was liable to pair that temperature rise with everyone getting every kind of skin cancer imaginable from unfiltered solar radiation.

          Watch “The Human Future” by Melodysheep, it gives a real perspective moment on just how hard life would be to dislodge even in a major die out scenario.

          An event which wipes out 99% of all humans alive now would still leave the earth populated by 80 million people, which is a larger number than the total global population was for a massive stretch of our history.

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            Glad to hear that you wouldn’t describe a 99% die off of the human population as apocalyptic, let alone all the life not able to adapt to rapid change. Whilst the remaining 1% sits in the wreckage of a blighted environment now incredibly hostile to life. Let’s hope the remaining 80 million are fairly centrally located and don’t just starve, freeze or kill each other in the wasteland, to round out that non-apocalypse.

            Don’t forget to have kids, Gen Z, we need more fodder for the impending mass death event.

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              Tell me you drove your literature teacher into day drinking without telling me you drove your literature teacher into day drinking.

              Get off the internet and learn some reading comprehension skills angsty.

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        I just think they lack any real issues. I grew up poor and constantly insecure. I had real issues, and it has given be perspective. I’m grateful for every day I have food and shelter. I don’t have a lot of bandwidth to care about stuff which might affect people 100 years from now.

        Of course I’m glad that they grew up with such privileged lives. I just wish they’d care a little more about poor people today.

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      The key word is “disorder” though.

      Everyone experiences anxiety from time to time, just like everyone has minor bouts of depression or invasive compulsions. Some non-disordered might even still experience them often.

      Not everyone experiences these feelings pervasively to a degree it prevents them from socioeconomic success (making friends, going outside, finding and keeping a job, etc).

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        If the majority of people have it, wouldn’t that make it the order of things and not a disorder?

        If everyone has the same affliction then that’s just the norm. Better questions would be centered on what is it about society that is engendering these new social norms?

        But that would take real discussions, dive into politics and economics and necessitate actual actions instead of just more NeoLiberal busybody posturing. Keep kicking that can down the road boomers, it is after all, all you’ve ever fucking done, besides let the country devolve into dilapidation and disrepair under your watch. Institutionalized neglect, smh

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          I was only discussing the definition of a disorder. But if you want to get into sophistry and impotent political venting, sure. If 60% of people can’t make connections with others or hold down a job because of their mental health, I question anyone who would call that anything but a disordered society, and that includes you saying it’s “the order of things.”

          That said, this is an informal self-reported poll with a possibly exaggerated headline. It’s entirely possible the actual disorder most of GenZ has is self-diagnosis and identity culture, in which if one doesn’t have a disorder or three, one becomes the weirdo in a group.

          I found this line from the article especially telling:

          The survey also showed that 2 out of 5 go to therapy and 53 percent have gotten professional help for mental health at some point.

          Notice how 53% is less than 60? And we’d have to assume each and every one of the 53% was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder on those “at some point” visits to come close to supporting the headline’s claim.

          I think if measurable socioeconomic markers supported the 60% number, it would be bigger news. Are they more anxious, sure. But again… anxiety does not imply anxiety disorder. As it stands, publishing inaccurate headlines like this makes people take the real issues – and there ARE a lot of big, pervasive societal issues at play – less seriously.

          (And because I know y’all need to hear it: if you, dear reader, have a professional diagnosis, none of this is talking about you.)

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            I don’t think it’s quite fair to unload on genZ about self diagnosis when access to medical care is restricted and understaffed as it is here in America. Another way to see it is at least genZ is concerned with their mental health and concerned enough about other people’s that theyve set to normalizing it.

            I’m sure if therapy were blanket covered by insurance than 9 out of 10 people wouldve gone by now. All those numbers are only indicative of how many people could afford, what’s often considered elective, medical care.

            And then how many received a diagnosis just so the doctor knew they’d get paid? $$$ in medicine fucks up all our stats, which fucks up all the conclusions we draw from them.

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              I’m aware. That was the point of me pointing out that you’d have to assume all 53% had been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. It’s incredibly unrealistic. And yet 60% have a disorder? There is absolutely self-diagnosis happening.

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        Not everyone experiences these feelings pervasively to a degree it prevents them from socioeconomic success (making friends, going outside, finding and keeping a job, etc).

        I know, who tf are these people?! They’re like aliens to me lol