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    … because that strategy’s never backfired on a regular basis for the Dems before …

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      What are you talking about?

      This was definitely NOT a huge component of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

      It also definitely did NOT play into the Democrat’s delusion that any left leaning voters they lost by shifting to the right would be replaced by the GOP moderates it would attract.

      Oh, and Chuck Schummer also NEVER repeatedly made these claims in public, or during media appearances.

      So yeah, this is a bold and definitely BRAND NEW strategy.

      No way it goes tits up.

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          And if all the progressives in CA and NY and MA and WY and MT and UT vote for Biden and Trump still wins in the Electoral College all the liberals will blame them for the loss.

          Democrats don’t appeal to progressives because we all live in high density areas and low-density areas define the government. It’s just like PotatoMcWhiskey exploiting the Diplomatic Favor trade hack in Civ; they’re at least attempting to play the actual game that we’re playing.

          Also, I love the subtext of “Everyone should vote! [Democrat].” None of you would know that I just leave the ballot blank every year. Or if I did stupid write ins. But I voted, and that’s what’s important.

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            You’re projecting. All liberals don’t blame progressives specifically for Republican wins.

            Some may wedge party divide, but most simply blame abstainers.

            A record 55% of registered Democrats voted in 2020 to barely secure the win.

            https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/

            Voting isn’t putting your name on every action of the elector. It’s simply the most effective way to push the nation in one direction versus the other. Sometimes you vote for an elector, sometimes you vote against one, but you should vote regardless.

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                Hillary Clinton is not a liberal. She’s a centrist Democrat.

                Even if she were, she hardly represents all liberals.

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                    They’re the bulk of Democrats, between centrists and progressives. Whether they’re more conservative than progressives and more liberal than centrists on social or economic issues depends on the individual.

                    It’s the same on the right with centrists, conservatives, and MAGA Republicans (far-right). They have far fewer centrists and far more conservatives than the left has centrists and liberals.

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                  Hillary Clinton is not a liberal. She’s a centrist Democrat.

                  Her supporters called her a progressive. She called herself a progressive.

                  “Biden is the most progressive president since FDR” is regarded with skepticism from the left for some reason.

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              You’re projecting. All liberals don’t blame progressives specifically for Republican wins.

              I doubt that very much, but let’s say it’s true. I’d wager that you can’t find an outspoken progressive who hasn’t been blamed by a liberal at one point or another for the loss Clinton earned.

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          So how should the party treat them? Like valued constituents or like contemptible shit?

          Because they’re not being treated like valued constituents.

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          They can be mad at Biden for Gaza. Meanwhile, Trump will green light a full annexation of the West Bank as a quid pro quo for Miriam Adelson’s support. This is the same reason he moved the embassy to Jerusalem to lock in her husband’s support for the 2016 election.

          Edit: run-on sentence