• MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
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    For context, the emachines “never obsolete” wasn’t referring to this computer, it was a recycling program where you could send your old machine back and get a huge discount on your next one. It was actually a pretty good deal at the time, especially when your average family machine was a lot more expensive than they are today

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      There were a couple of companies that tried programs like this. PeoplePC was another similar program. You would pay for their services and they would lease you a computer every 3 years.

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      I wonder how much of a discount OP can get when they send their machine back?

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        If it’s in perfect condition, and they valued it based on second hand retrocomputing market prices… probably a nice chunk of cash.

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    You conveniently blocked the part of the sticker saying what they mean by “never obsolete” with the red circle. IIRC, they gave you a massive discount to trade in your computer every 2 years for the latest model, so you were always up to date. Kinda like phones now.

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        Every “trade in and get the latest” has always failed imo.

        Either the company ends up being bankrupt. Or the company realizes they really f’d up and the upgrade ends up costing more than had I just bought it flat out on sale.

        Source:

        I was part of a few of them over the last 10 years. Phones. Tablets. Laptops. Tvs. I did it because I always thought this time, it’ll work out.

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    What do you mean, this bad boy is probably powering a semi-critical government system somewhere, definitely not obsolete.

    Edit: not even joking or shitting on it, there’s probably a proprietary software system out there somewhere that a contractor was paid to build ages ago. The contractor is out of business or doesn’t support it anymore, but it works perfectly in its one little spot. Also an update is gonna cost a quarter of a million dollars.

    I’ve seen disk chart meters at facilities that are 40+ years old and need a new disk chart every so often. You could replace it with a digital meter, but that won’t integrate with the rest of the control panel and a third party took over production of the disks 15 years ago. The system works great and it’s unlikely to be updated unless they stop making the disk charts.

    Edit 2: the correct term is circular chart recorder

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      There are some data recording systems on planes designed in the 90s that still use the original designs. Memory cards that are as big as your hand and only hold megabytes worth of data.

      Upgrading would be fairly simple in theory, but getting anything approved to be used on an aircraft is an expensive pain in the ass so they don’t want to go through that. They don’t need any more storage capacity either.

      So somewhere out there some companies are making these now ancient parts for now ancient systems, and probably making a killing because nobody else makes them.

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      I know for a fact that many hospitals are still running 1970s COBOL on beige servers in the corners of basements that have been taken over by ICU wards. Because I has to maintain that shit amongst the dying. Weird job.

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      I had almost this exact scenario happen with a CNC machine for a very old but profitable niche company. Pain in my ass.

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        Seems like this issue is across a few different industries. I had two CnC machine running software on old PC’s with special cards to interface with the drives. One was running in a Dos box while the other was running windows XP. We could never afford any down time so it was fine some old PC’s that can still run this stuff.

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        I don’t know if it’s still there but I once did some work getting a plasma cutter back to operational. OS/2. Not even warp!

        Oh it’s a pretty solid OS but i mean, damn.

        Parallel port hardware key and everything. I do believe in keeping what works working but at some point you gotta let go because you run out of people that can solve problems with it.

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      I made so much money on this kinda stuff. And even after all updated they still kept those damn chart recorders. Luckily they were standalone and I guess easier than hitting print.

      And most of you would be terrified if you knew what they were manufacturing. Ignorance is bliss, trust.

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          Why did you have to bring attitude into it?

          There are components of various flying machines that are critical and must be made at certain temp and humidity. Else they are out of spec. That’s pretty much it. The people in charge of this are less thorough than you’d like.

          Be nicer.

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    God,the number of these I sold at Best buy…rolling my eyes the entire time…and making absolutely sure the customer understood exactly what that phrase meant in this ultra-scammy context…

    Ended up not being able to handle that job. Something about literally full-time debunking of lies printed on everything in sight was exhausting for me.

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        You bought the computer and paid a subscription to be able to replace the computer with a new one every year or two.

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      I sold a bunch of them used… Lol…

      They were basically obsolete the minute they were shipped to stores with the shitty Celeron CPUs, virtually no RAM, and tiny hard drives but people still bought them from me a year later for too much money.

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    The “never obsolete” refers to a subscription service, where they would periodically send you updates somehow. LGR has a good video on this.

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    Holy shit my grandfather had this exact PC up until ten years ago or so lol

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        no no no no, it’s not a mandate, it’s just that we encourage self expression here in the PC market. You do want to express yourself, right?

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        37 pieces of flair to be exact.

        It’s in the contract that technically 15 would suffice, but who wants to be the company that only does the bare minimum?