Victims of Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel are suing Iran, Syria and North Korea, saying their governments supplied the militants with money, weapons and know-how needed to carry out the assault that precipitated Israel’s ongoing war in Gaza.
Regardless of justice, this type of lawsuit isn’t in the interest of any reasonable world order.
They are suing sovereign countries for assisting in an attack on Israel. In a US federal court. With no treaties backing the suit; just a law passed unilaterally by the US.
That is not the way international law works at all. By the logic, Peru could pass a law allowing it’s citizens to sue the US because they have family that took a vacation in mexico where they were shot by a US gun.
This should be viewed in context of the US’s refusal to join the ICC, and the “Hague Invasion Act” (American Service-Members’ Protection Act) that authotizes unbounded military force against the ICC if it acts against anyone working for the US or a US ally. As well as a bill passed in the house attempting to sanction the ICC for its move against Israeli leadership.
The entire theory behind being able to have such a lawsuit in a US federal court is US imperialism.
This type of lawsuit is questionably in the interest of justice when directed at Hamas/it’s benefactors, but you want to know when it’s directed at the US and Israel? I don’t understand what “type” of lawsuit this is where justice is questioned if directed at them. Sounds more like whataboutism and double standards…
Yes the problem with “whataboutism” is that it can be used to dismiss any claims of double standards without further examination.
For example, here in the US we punish black murderers more harshly and more often than we do white murderers. If a black murderer tries to point out this double standard, their claims would accurately be dismissed as “whataboutism”. But when you view the system as a whole, then you can see that systemic racism is undeniable.
The only thing dismissed by your comment was the posted article, such that you could distract from the article’s premise and substitute a different subject for discussion. This is a bad faith attempt to turn users away from what is posted, and deflect to a different issue.
Goodbye.
And I reject the facile equation of this to systemic racism against the black population. That is an obtuse comparison completely outside of the scope of the justice outlined in the article.
I’m on the fence if this type of lawsuit is actually in the interest of justice.
But one thing definitely irks me, this is the type of justice that is only doled out to enemies of the US.
Let me know when Palestinian Americans win a lawsuit against the US and Israel after an American-made, Israeli-fired bomb kills their entire family.
Regardless of justice, this type of lawsuit isn’t in the interest of any reasonable world order.
They are suing sovereign countries for assisting in an attack on Israel. In a US federal court. With no treaties backing the suit; just a law passed unilaterally by the US.
That is not the way international law works at all. By the logic, Peru could pass a law allowing it’s citizens to sue the US because they have family that took a vacation in mexico where they were shot by a US gun.
This should be viewed in context of the US’s refusal to join the ICC, and the “Hague Invasion Act” (American Service-Members’ Protection Act) that authotizes unbounded military force against the ICC if it acts against anyone working for the US or a US ally. As well as a bill passed in the house attempting to sanction the ICC for its move against Israeli leadership.
The entire theory behind being able to have such a lawsuit in a US federal court is US imperialism.
This type of lawsuit is questionably in the interest of justice when directed at Hamas/it’s benefactors, but you want to know when it’s directed at the US and Israel? I don’t understand what “type” of lawsuit this is where justice is questioned if directed at them. Sounds more like whataboutism and double standards…
Yes the problem with “whataboutism” is that it can be used to dismiss any claims of double standards without further examination.
For example, here in the US we punish black murderers more harshly and more often than we do white murderers. If a black murderer tries to point out this double standard, their claims would accurately be dismissed as “whataboutism”. But when you view the system as a whole, then you can see that systemic racism is undeniable.
The only thing dismissed by your comment was the posted article, such that you could distract from the article’s premise and substitute a different subject for discussion. This is a bad faith attempt to turn users away from what is posted, and deflect to a different issue.
Goodbye.
And I reject the facile equation of this to systemic racism against the black population. That is an obtuse comparison completely outside of the scope of the justice outlined in the article.