Who wants to watch softcore nonsense involving people doing things that are not how sex actually works? Gen Z is first gen to come of age when porn is prolific. Mainstream film can’t compete with step siblings getting stuck on the interwebs.
You don’t make passionate love to your wife while she’s wearing all her clothes and wake up in the morning with her wearing full makeup?
Where do we get the L-shaped blankets?
Porn is really not how sex actually works
I think porn gets it more right than Hollywood does. People in porn at least successfully take their pants off.
And no Hollywood, all women don’t have an orgasm in 30 seconds! Movie sex would be extremely disappointing in real life.
Well according to Hollywood, sex is either life alteringly amazing, life alteringly traumatic, or interrupted by a phone call.
The Olympics is not how normal people exercise either
As an elder millennial, porn has been prolific longer than you think. Late 90s and early 2000s LAN parties were half playing video games and half copying vast amounts of porn from each other.
And how many people went to LAN parties?
Those were the Nerds, the weirdos that spent halft their free time on a computer and talking about how to get faster internet. For the “cool kids” i think a lot were the magazines or someone stealing a VCR from their dads private collection.
Every town and city I ever went in the early 2000s to had multiple crowded LAN centers. It was definitely mainstream, and definitely wasn’t just geeks. Pretending file sharing was not mainstream by 2000 is like pretending Star Wars is only for nerds.
Way out of touch.
Eeh, swede here but a majority of men in my generation (90s) were probably at dreamhack at one point or another during their teens. Not to mention homeparties. Girls is less obviously but many of those went too
I’ve also found that gen z aren’t as sex crazed as we were, I felt like I had a monkey on my back and had to screw everything. Gen z is more aware of the consequences, and they have other shit to keep them occupied, we were bored a lot.
Lolol millennials had online porn from before early puberty for all but the most seniors of them.
Most senior? Gen X here. I got my porn from the Internet too. Just before the web existed. We used Usenet and Gopher.
All 12 of you 🤣
I went on the side of caution. At some point early 90s, it became more popular outside of the limited users of computers.
I’m 36 and had internet porn since before I got puberty.
But yeah, I agree. I skip sex scenes now. I don’t feel like they add anything. Like you can just cut out all the nude backs and moaning and nothing of value would be lost. We get it, they had sex, move on.
41 here. No internet before puberty. I remember watching late night TV hoping for a few seconds of smooching and maybe even boobs.
Most of us had it, but most were on things like family computers trying to be covert about it. Capacitive touch screen phones changed everything for access. No one was getting imaginative with the snake game on a Nokia 3310 back in the day.
Kinks have diversified. Main stream can’t catch up!
Millennial here. I’ve always found random sex scenes obnoxious. It completely kills the pacing and pulls me out of the story. If you need sex for character development, you can much more easily allude to it and move on. The only time I can think of when it actually made sense for the story was in the movie Her and it was such a mild scene that didn’t have any visuals.
I think it worked for some early GOT moments too. It showed the monster that Khal Drogo really was, for example
It was cool as shit in blade runner 2049
Even this?
I somehow feel like my life has been enriched.
The only time I can think of when it actually made sense for the story…
Never watched I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry?
I’m with Gen Z here. They’re absolutely right
Just feels awkward, uncomfortable, and unnecessary most of the time.
I don’t feel like it’s awkward or uncomfortable, but I do hate it when it’s completely unnecessary. I don’t even care if the sex is unrealistic as long as it’s necessary for the plot. Just Chekhov’s gun that shit.
Especially with many audiences. On your own or with a romantic partner it’s not nearly as bad, but watching a sex scene with pretty much anyone else feels so awkward, which pulls you out of the scene.
same tbh
Amen , I am millenial and I too find it very uncomfortable. When I was young I was eagerly waiting for some hot scenes when porn was scarce but now anything remotely sexual iRRitates me.
Yup, especially as a gay, sex scenes in movies have always been “I’m fine with straight people existing, but I don’t want them rubbing my face in it” at best … and it’s rarely at best, with all the chemistry of a jar of nitrogen.
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Yep. 46 years old here and agree 100%. I find them gratuitous and awkward in a standard show or movie. And I have no problem with porn.
I’m not Gen Z and I hate the damn sex scenes. There was a minute there where netflix would just add one within 15 mins of every show or movie, even if they never showed another one again. It never added to the plot and seemed like it was just there to reel people in. But, it was obnoxious.
Glad they sort of stopped that, although I still find it happens now and again. Hopefully this puts the nail in the coffin.
Maybe I am a prude. So what!
It’s awkward seeing scenes like that unfold with other people like friends and family. Implying a scene and fading to black is more than enough. And I think many actors would be happier too not having to act out those scenes.
The issue for me isn’t the sex, it’s that the scene is irrelevant to the plot. If the sex is relevant to the plot I don’t mind, but when it’s obviously just slotted in to show tits, that’s annoying because it breaks immersion for me. It makes me think about the agenda behind adding that scene instead of thinking about the story I’m watching.
Obvious product placement is kind of in the same category for me. Like Will Smith in I, Robot spending 5 minutes of the movie super excited about receiving some “vintage 2004 Converse All Stars”. Like, the movie is set in 2035, but you just had to find a way to plug this year’s model of some shoes. Sure, those shoes have looked the same since forever, but the 2004 ones were just something else, man!
Then he gets into his Audi (everyone else is driving Audis too), and then out of his Audi, then back in his Audi, and so on. Audi.
Not a prude, and I still FF Netflix sex scenes.
Too many people tried to emulate the vulgarity of game of thrones. It worked in game of thrones, it doesn’t work everywhere.
Hmm. I haven’t really thought about it much. Why do I, a porn enjoying man from smack in the middle of the Millennial generation, dislike so many Hollywood sex scenes?
I would be interested in gathering some data, take a large sample of movies and TV shows made during my lifetime, and rate them as to why they’re in a film. What purpose do they serve in the story, what do they tell us about the characters…why is this here?
Am a millennial. Sex scenes in movies should follow a simple formula: don’t do sex scenes, or do real sex scenes.
All that softcore, sex under the sheets while wearing a bra nonsense only serves to make watching it with family a bit awkward. Either make it a movie that stands on its own, or make a movie where I can actually watch celebrity people fuck in full explicitness.
Make it porn or not, both is fine, but don’t try to appeal to both sides. That’s just awkward and frustrating to either
Here’s the twist. We show it. We show all of it.
Because what’s the one major thing missing from all action movies these days, guys? Full penetration. Guys, we’re going to show full penetration, and we’re going to show a lot of it.
Team America did it right. They went all the way and I loved it.
It makes me happy that somewhere, someone, is reading your comment with no knowledge of the scene you’re referring to. I hope they search for it and are delighted.
Edit: And I agree 100%.
Not a millennial but broadly agree with you.
It’s also just so … base … like, ok, your characters bonk, we get it, just fade to black. When did a sex scene add anything to a story other than titillation? It’s the equivalent of serving me up another algorithmically targeted TikTok video. I feel like they’re just taking advantage of me.
So, in short, I’d be happy if they leave that shit at the door. If I was searching for porn, I’d know where to look.
I think you touched on it here. Back in the day ppl wanted those sex scenes. Now we have porn and don’t need them for titillation
Desperado did it right.
Doesn’t help that sex keeps being written into shows where it doesn’t belong.
It’s trying to make a show “more adult” in literally the most childish way possible.
That Halo show is a good example of completely needless sex scenes.
I’d completely forgotten about the Halo show in general, and now you’ve just reminded me of Master Cheeks all over again :(
All I know about the Halo show is that it ignores the entirety of the Halo lore in order to basically try to be a note for note rip off of the Mandalorian. But the fact that it has sex scenes bothers me, I mean isn’t it cannon that the Spartan project killed Master Chiefs libido and therefore he is effectively asexual?
Every show needs a romantic subplot. Its fundamental to the marketing.
Porn is porn, I’ll watch that when I want in private. If I’m watching a movie/tv show, I’m watching it for the content, for the storyline or whatever, adding shitty softcore porn to it just dilutes it and makes it unwatchable around friends/family. One of my gripes with Game of Thrones (not high compared to everything else wrong with it) was all the shitty sex scenes they added, which required them to cut out even more content than before. With only ~10 hours per season, they didn’t have alot of time to dick around, but they spent alot of time… dickin’ around.
It’s not the sex. It’s the cringy romantic bullshit typically surrounding it where everyone treats each other like shit for the sake of drama.
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I suspect that is true as well. Most of the really dramatic girls I’ve known have been super into romcoms and reality TV. If not causing the behavior they are at least reinforcing it.
I want romance in my romance and rom-coms. I do not want it in my action, thriller, history, sci-fi, fantasy, comedy, or biographical movies. Unless, and this is key, unless it legitimately adds to the movie.
Unless you’re watching a romance movie there’s almost zero point to have a romance plotline.
Pretty tired of the horror movies and action movies that just randomly throw in some love triangle or romance plot to try and make the actual plot more exciting, even though most of the time it makes no sense.
Oh I met you three days ago? MARRY ME HANDSOME!
I wish I could go tell this to that hack who wrote the “Iliad”. Like seriously you’re going to go and insert some stupid love shot into your kick arse war story? Oh and don’t even get me started on using the name Helen in a fantasy Greek setting, pffft.
That’s a pretty bad example, since love is the reason that the war started to begin with, making it quite essential for the plot
I think it more likely that they are sick of the idiot love triangle crutch which so many productions desperately wedge into films it has no place in.
“Gen Z doesn’t like sex scene put into the movie by senile board members, so they must not like sex in movies anymore”
@2ncs not really what the study found.
The new UCLA “Teens and Screens” study, conducted by the Center for Scholars & Storytellers, found that across 1,500 members of Gen Z, ages 10 to 24, young people wanted to see platonic relationships between onscreen characters, and many felt sex wasn’t necessary for story plot. (Only the respondents ages 13 to 24 were asked about sexual content.)
“While it’s true that teens want less sex on TV and in movies, what the survey is really saying is that teens want more and different kinds of relationships reflected in the media they watch,” said Yalda T. Uhls
I don’t mind sex scenes but I’m so over forced, low stakes, softcore sex scenes between characters that have nonexistent chemistry.
I still think it’s best when it’s artfully implied and brief between characters with chemistry.
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90% and 100% more like
Top Gun Maverick did it perfectly IMO.
I was getting all concerned I was going to have watch ageing Tom Cruise do his thing, but they did a 90s soap opera option and panned away. They knew the audience understood and didn’t need to see. I was so relieved and surprised.
That’s not just a Gen Z thing, nobody I’ve ever talked to likes sex scenes.
Most of them are just dumb. Like a guy finds out his mom just died in a bear attack, so he and his coworker have passionate sex for the first time.
Ah, bear-grief sex.
A classic.
That’s right. If I wanna see that, there’s pornhub etc. In any other movie: skip button. One exception: “The Room”. Makes the cringe complete. Oh, never watch it sober. Of course.
It’s oddly the perfect Hollywood sex scene.
I mean, they try for verisimilitude. When I have sex I of course spend hours under flowing white bed sheets running my hand along my partners body and kind of grinding at them, I mean who doesn’t? But it’s always unrealistic. You never even see the dude you’re paying $5.00 an hour to undulate the sheets, not the dude holding the sheets up so you can stare lovingly into your partners eyes.
Well no shit. Nobody wants to watch sex scenes with their parents, and when rent costs 3 used cars per month they don’t have a ton of choice.
I think you are exaggerating a bit here. Rent levels are skyrocketing past wage growth, sure, but have you considered that used cars are also getting prohibitively expensive relative to the average income? Three of them would be roughly a zillion dollars if my math is correct
Well if you people would stop buying your Pepsis and Cosmo magazines then maybe you could afford a 2001 dodge neon … Dammit
Ya can get a used early 2000s/late 90s saburban in my city for about $2000. Mind ya folks trade around cars here like a 1700s brothel traded the clap but still.
