Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.
That really depends on how far back in history you want to go. We can even start with Muhammad and the Jewish tribes massacres (Banu Qurayza for example).
But honestly, I don’t think that that’s a productive approach.
This is a live, dynamic and constantly changing conflict. The things that defined it 100 or even 50 years ago are no longer relevant.
The israeli people living there today have no ancestry back to mohammedan times. They’re 99% converts. But really, you wanted to go back to the start. As if you are going to find some historical excuse that could justify the use of white phosphorus, bombing of hospitals, the bombing of roads that the population were told to take to move south by the very same army doing the bombardment. Some point in time where you can point to and claim “See, this is why the israeli’s are justified in starving and bombing and terrorizing these people in an open-air prison”.
Yes you were referring to the Al-Aqsa flood. As a means to distract from the ongoing genocide that the Israeli government feels it is entitled to do. You refer to it as if this is the start of the chain of causalities and not a link on the ongoing war thats been going on since Israel was founded. You grasp for a context that will make the ongoing cruelty and savagery at least understandable, perhaps even seem justified. No such context exists.
A few days ago a group of Israelis tortured, killed and then burned the bodies of a couple Palestinians. They said that it’s in revenge of the events of 7/10.
Do you also understand and perhaps even justify it?
My point isn’t the litigation of every single event, neither the Al-Aqsa flood nor the settlers response to it. My point is the reason for this war is colonialism. This is what I said in my other comment:
The history is complicated in the sense that it is war with many atrocities and injustices. But the root of the issue, the cause for all these atrocities that the colonialists suffer in retaliation is colonialism.
And there is no context in which the systematic oppression of the native Palestinians by the Israeli Apartheid state is understandable or justified.
And I’m saying that you’re wrong. The Arab-Jewish conflict can be traced long before Israel and many Jews lived or arrive to the area before many of the Palestinians.
It’s a very complex conflict, that it’s currently deadlocked and unsolvable. The colonisation in the west bank is just one small part of it, and the easiest one to solve. Presenting it as if it’s the main or only issue is what I meant by Americanising the conflict.
That really depends on how far back in history you want to go. We can even start with Muhammad and the Jewish tribes massacres (Banu Qurayza for example).
But honestly, I don’t think that that’s a productive approach. This is a live, dynamic and constantly changing conflict. The things that defined it 100 or even 50 years ago are no longer relevant.
The israeli people living there today have no ancestry back to mohammedan times. They’re 99% converts. But really, you wanted to go back to the start. As if you are going to find some historical excuse that could justify the use of white phosphorus, bombing of hospitals, the bombing of roads that the population were told to take to move south by the very same army doing the bombardment. Some point in time where you can point to and claim “See, this is why the israeli’s are justified in starving and bombing and terrorizing these people in an open-air prison”.
69ish% of modern Israeli jews are natives to the region. The group labeled “zionists” or “colonizers” describes about 30%.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world about as many or more than the Nakbah got expelled.
Well yeah, this is what you got from ethnic cleansing. Does it make it right? Nope.
I don’t understand this claim. Can you explain?
You’re diverting, arguing with a straw man and pushing propaganda. Everything you said can be disproved by a quick Google search.
I’m going to pull the “no u” card here, because you’re the one who brought up “how this war started” to divert from the ongoing genocide.
I was referring to the attack on 7/10.
You framed it as a battle in an ongoing war that been going since Israel was founded.
I answered that if we want to look at the history of the Jewish Arab conflict it can be traced to the early days of Islam.
Your response to that was false propaganda.
Yes you were referring to the Al-Aqsa flood. As a means to distract from the ongoing genocide that the Israeli government feels it is entitled to do. You refer to it as if this is the start of the chain of causalities and not a link on the ongoing war thats been going on since Israel was founded. You grasp for a context that will make the ongoing cruelty and savagery at least understandable, perhaps even seem justified. No such context exists.
I see.
A few days ago a group of Israelis tortured, killed and then burned the bodies of a couple Palestinians. They said that it’s in revenge of the events of 7/10.
Do you also understand and perhaps even justify it?
My point isn’t the litigation of every single event, neither the Al-Aqsa flood nor the settlers response to it. My point is the reason for this war is colonialism. This is what I said in my other comment:
The history is complicated in the sense that it is war with many atrocities and injustices. But the root of the issue, the cause for all these atrocities that the colonialists suffer in retaliation is colonialism.
And there is no context in which the systematic oppression of the native Palestinians by the Israeli Apartheid state is understandable or justified.
And I’m saying that you’re wrong. The Arab-Jewish conflict can be traced long before Israel and many Jews lived or arrive to the area before many of the Palestinians.
It’s a very complex conflict, that it’s currently deadlocked and unsolvable. The colonisation in the west bank is just one small part of it, and the easiest one to solve. Presenting it as if it’s the main or only issue is what I meant by Americanising the conflict.