• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    If democrats didn’t utilize this electoral ‘strategy’, maybe we wouldn’t have been taking steps backwards on women’s and LGBTQ rights.

    If democrats can’t run on protecting minorities, and they can’t pass popular legislation (after they’ve won because they didn’t run on protecting minorities) because of congressional posturing, then maybe their electoral strategy is broken.

    • stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub
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      2 months ago

      What strategy dude

      Winning by not alienating new voters who came over from Trumps base??? You and the other person are acting like just because they didn’t fucking talk about YOUR issue RIGHT NOW they will NEVER support you.

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        2 months ago

        New Trump voters go back to Trump: dems fault for alienating them (or worse, progressives fault for pushing dems to be progressive)

        Progressive voters staying home or voting green: progressive voters fault for not being ethically flexible

        This is why leftists acknowledge liberals as being adversarial, bud. Dems aren’t interested in progress, they’re interested in maintaining their centrist consensus.

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          2 months ago

          I couldn’t disagree with you more if I wanted to.

          Bernie Sanders isn’t interested in progress?

          AOC isn’t interested in progress?

          Ilhan Omar, Mark Pocan, Ayanna Presley, Rashida Tlaib? Not progressive? Not interested in fighting for minorities?

          Maybe I’m just misunderstanding what you’re saying here, but your take smells a lot like “hello fellow teens, let’s go burn down some shit”, “oh look there’s a pallets of bricks here at this protest and it’s almossst dark time!”

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            2 months ago

            Lmao you think Bernie Sanders, AOC or Ilhan Omar are representative of the democratic party? Sanders was quite famously fucked by the party (twice), and Ilhan Omar is currently getting fucked, too. AOC is only barely more friendly with the party, but not until after she walked back her open support for Palestinan liberation and did a livestream with a Zionist AIPAC rep to explain why Israel has a right to defend itself.

            The democratic party relies on the support of capitalist and reactionary interests. It’s why they fund primary challenges to progressive congressmen and their extremist reactionary opponents. They’re happy to include progressives in their caucus as long as they maintain their ability to govern with a center-right lean.

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              2 months ago

              I’m just not going to dismiss the entire fucking democratic party under a shallow judgement of specific actions taken by specific people

              Pretty simple, and should be a familiar sentiment you should hold if you’re actually progressive, ironically.

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            2 months ago

            Progressives aren’t liberals.

            They’re to the left of liberals.

            Stop gaslighting.