You do that in the US, and they will shoot you.
That is what happens if you knock and don’t run away.
Imagine that you live in a suburb. Imagine it is 3am, you are sleeping with your family, and suddenly a very loud and forceful knocking on the door for 10 seconds. That happened to me, and the only reason I did not bring my gun when I was checking what is going on is because I do not have one. But at that moment I really wished I had.
Imagine that you live in a suburb. Imagine it is 3am, you are drunk and want to go home. You forgot/lost your keys somewhere so you knock on your door to wake up whoever you are living with. Unfortunately for you in your drunk stupor you knocked on the wrong door and are now dead because someone with 0 gun training was allowed to buy and use one, got scared and shot you because they were frightened.
The way I always see Americans speak about these late night incidents you’d think Europe would have collapsed from lack of guns in people’s homes…
Not even drunk, the back of your neighbours house catches fire so you run over and bang on the door to wake him - he doesn’t answer so you kick the door open just as he gets halfway down the stairs – even if he’s a responsible gun owner that moment of someone bursting in while he has a gun in his hand, instant tragedy…
That was not the case though. It were actual hooligans entertaining themselves. And being drunk is not an excuse for this behavior. Can’t hold the liquor do not drink.
Doesn’t matter what the situation actually was. The US has an object problem with gun violence. Just speaking statistics the US had more deaths in mass shootings and number of mass shootings in a single year than the entirety of Europe has in more than a decade, probably multiple decades looking at the numbers. Which gets really sad considering we have twice as many people living here. Guns aren’t the solution to your gun violence problem they are the fucking problem. Doesn’t matter if it’s thugs banging on your door or just some neighbours kid playing a prank all a gun does in any situation is increase the number of dead or seriously injured people afterwards. People in the Balkan countries are more responsible about gun ownership and a lot of those guys still have/had junk from the Yugoslav war lying around in the basement. They recently had a tragic mass shooting in Serbia after which the government announced an amnesty program for unregistered firearms. Guess what happened? People registered that too many guns just lying around is a problem and turned theirs in en masse.
Why are we talking about guns? The OP topic is about knocking the door. I brought gun (the one that I do not have) into discussion to only indicate that it can be quite scary.
As for guns, it is too simplistic to blame gun violence to gun legality. It is more cultural thing than anything else, because there are countries with large legal ownership of guns, where gun violence is significantly smaller.
For example, in US, 45% of households have guns, similarly in Findland about 40%. Findland however does not have anything close to US in gun violence.
I did not bring my gun when I was checking what is going on is because I do not have one. But at that moment I really wished I had.
OP brings up guns which is why I mentioned them. You are btw correct in your “it’s a culture” argument but that doesn’t change the facts. Finland doesn’t have high gun ownership because people buy them at the supermarket btw, they just take their gun home after serving their conscription term. Same with Switzerland btw.
But if there was an intruder they probably wouldn’t want to make you aware of their presence correct? If someone was trying forced entry wouldn’t they just do it?
Do you think you can think logically at 3 am? And honestly I have no idea how those people think. As a human being I would not forcefully knock to someone in the middle of the night just to scare them. So, all bets are off. Maybe they come for lynching. How would I know?
Question is: is it punishable?
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This calls for Neg’s Urban Sports - Knock and don’t run:
i used to do this with friends anyway
@911, yes this dude here!
Snitches get stitches. According to GB customs, prepare to be knifed.
Guess they really don’t like someone knocking on doors over there.
Of course a country which puts their children in suits and sends them to boarding schools may have an issue with understanding what it means to have fun as a kid.
Is there a source for this.
For the UK legislation: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/2-3/47/section/54
Paragraph 16.
Wow that’s a gold mine! Some highlights:
Every person shall be liable to a penalty […] who […] commit any of the following offences;
[…]
Every person who shall roll or carry any cask, tub, hoop, or wheel, or any ladder, plank, pole, showboard, or placard, upon any footway, except for the purpose of loading or unloading any cart or carriage, or of crossing the footway
[…]
Every person who shall blow any horn or use any other noisy instrument, for the purpose of calling persons together, or of announcing any show or entertainment, or for the purpose of hawking, selling, distributing, or collecting any article whatsoever, or of obtaining money or alms
[…]
Every person who shall wilfully and wantonly disturb any inhabitant by pulling or ringing any door-bell or knocking at any door without lawful excuse, or who shall wilfully and unlawfully extinguish the light of any lamp
[…]
Every person who shall fly any kite or play at any game to the annoyance of the inhabitants or passengers, or who shall make or use any slide upon ice or snow in any street or other thoroughfare, to the common danger of the passengers.
So don’t even think about *checks notes* flying a kite and playing games in general and also don’t you dare to *checks notes again* slide on ice or carry a wheel on a footpath, punk!
I can remember an old Tom Scott video where he broke a bunch of those. Still have “We flew a kite in a public place/ We flew a kite in a public place” stuck in my head.
Thanks! Are the over the top punishments still enforceable or is this a death penalty in Hesse situation?
Death penalty in Hesse:
common uk L
A better question to ask, what’s not wrong with the British?
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YES YES YES……YES!!
It’s ALWAYS a JoJo reference
D o you under s t a n d??
When I was a kid we called it ‘knock down ginger’. No idea why. We would just knock and run. Lots of fun. Once or twice we were chased by grown ups. I don’t really hear of kids doing it today, probably because everyone has ring cameras or similar things nowadays.
it gets its name from the 1967 George McKay Shaw poem
Ginger, Ginger broke a winder Hit the winda – crack! The baker came out to give 'im a clout And landed on his back.Oh nice, I learned something new today! Thank you.
We called it Nicky-nicky-nine-doors. I’ve also heard ding-dong-ditch.
I heard it as knock down ninja
Yall had fun names. Ours was just ding dong ditch.
The ginger bit was anti-Irish racism from the people who have literally committed genocide multiple times against the Irish.
That explains why they had to come up with Theft and Shrubbery.
There is no way people genuinely make color coding like this and think it’s a good idea. You gotta be trolling. What sane man assigns “Yes” to red and “No” to green and hits “publish?” Why must we be the makers of our own hell? Release me.
It’s a street light indication if you should do it or not. Countries where it’s legal you get a green light to do it, countries where it’s illegal you should stop.
Because red = negative i.e. you get arrested when knocking on doors and running away.
Green = positive i.e. the police don’t have to waste time on teens doing knock-and-runs.
I guess it has those colors because of the implication that “yes”=“bad” / “no”=“good”
