President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.
Right after lowering grocery prices.
Trump says lots of things.
Who knows which he will actually try to do?
Or how many of those things he will actually succeed at?
Exactly “Trump vow” = “hot air”
this would be pretty good. i hope he’s not full of shit on this one thing
The fun is in trying to figure out how this will be profitable for him.
Nice low-effort distraction from endless high crimes against America maybe.
So states he can’t fix greedflation and moves to checks notes …eliminating daylight savings. Pretty fuckin low on the list…
I’d rather be on savings time year round but yeah, the switch is the worst.
Good news for you: that’s what he’s likely planning (if he implements the 2022 Senate bill as-is).
Bad news for kids: that means they have to walk to school in the dark with sleep-deprived people operating heavy machinery in their vicinity for a bigger portion of the year.
“Won’t someone think of the children?”
There’s a pretty major difference between a moral panic and pointing out that something is going to decrease safety. Most notably, those moral panics are often opposed to things that actually do make kids safer.
Changing the clocks is already associated with an increase in fatal traffic accidents. If you’re concerned about safety then let’s stop changing the clocks.
Fully agree! But let’s not change them in a direction that also has known safety hazards.
Some people want DST all year and others want Standard, because depending on where in the country you live–the latitude you are at, and whether you live at the east or west edge of your time zone makes a big difference in your experience of them.
One solution is to adjust the time zone boundaries to make the timing work out better for different locations: making the lines a bit more diagonal will help, and/or add another zone so each zone is narrower and there’s not as much difference in sunrise/sunset times from one edge to the other.
Another idea is, don’t choose between DST and Standard, choose halfway between them: at the next time change, change it by only 1/2 hour instead of a full hour, and leave it there. This may sound strange but there are other countries whose times are offset by 1/2 hour from the others, so it’s not that unusual. So you’re halfway between DST and Standard all year round, so it’s not a big difference and is a good compromise.
Of course it’s always too dark in winter, but combine both of the above mitigations and you minimize any problems from leaving clocks the same all year, no matter what part of the country you live in.
Settling at half increments isn’t a bad idea in theory but it will be hell for international business because the average person is a moron.
If you’re going to go this radical just abolish time zones and use UTC. Then locally decide what time is the start of standard business and what is not.
Some timezones are already half an hour off
Excluding India, the GDP of those times zones is pretty damn small no? There’s not a massive amount of international trade and business, meaning fewer morons to fuck the time difference up.
I’m fully stating that the average person is functionally idiotic as it is, based on the meeting times I’ve been booked.
A few states can move a time zone, but northern states really benefit from the change. Daylight varies a ton seasonally in the north compared to south, Panama City has about 10-14 hours, but Seattle has about 8.5-16 hours
Broken clock.
Except that the Dems tried to do this recently and the Republicans wouldn’t come to the table, but as soon as they are in: “oh hey guys, check out our great policy you all love”.
Just saw this comment after posting saying it better than i: https://lemmy.world/comment/13969026
A broken clock can be right three times a day, if it breaks between 2AM and 3AM on the day of the DST change…
Or more often, if it runs backwards. Far less often if it runs fast or slow.
what if the clock runs several times too fast?
If it runs fast enough, it can be correct every minute.
Broken record.
Finally something I can support
The Sunlight Protection Act has been put up several times and passed by the Senate as recently as 2022. It sits in a committee at this time. I’m sure trump will take credit if it works its way through.
Well I hope it does make it through, despite bronzer boy taking credit for it.
Honestly I don’t care who takes credit, just get it done already
Why hasn’t it passed the house if Republicans supported it in the Senate? Strange
Not certain if it’s the same one, but a while ago such a bill was on the docket until they literally forgot about it. Like, they all supported it, but no one brought it up so they didn’t vote on it.
They’ve got more pressing issues to deal with. Trans people aren’t going to ban themselves from bathrooms.
Currently over 19,000 bills before Congress… Which ones get heard unfortunately is always manipulated.
Good.
The extra hour of sunshine cannot be good for global temperatures.
I’m assuming you’re joking, but I’m also assuming some morons actually believe this.
Every hour of sunlight brings 173,000 terrawatt hours of total solar irradiance. Even one hour is enough to make a big difference.
Those clocks are mighty powerful.
How is anyone taking this seriously
How are you taking this seriously?
I’m taking this fine. And I told you, don’t call me Serious Lee.
My dude had several down votes when i posted
btw that’s 6.228 * 1017J for non-Americans
Just trying to distract the public from any number of his fucked up shit
I’m fine with that, but I think we should settle on Daylight Savings time. You know, when time is an hour ahead of what it is now.
Standard time is the WORST. My political party might be permanent Daylight Savings Time
If we had year-round DST, the sun wouldn’t rise until after 8 AM in the winter.
And yet the happiest countries in the world spend most of the day in winter in darkness, some completely.
Though to be fair most of that has to do with how the governments tend to be more socialist.
That’s just being happy despite the darkness. Without it it would probably be better.
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First country from that happeness list on the suicide rankings is Finland and that’s #38, behind the US that’s at #31.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
I wake up at 6:45-7 most days and it’s not like it’s bright then either. I would MUCH prefer an hour more of daylight after I get off work
I live in the PNW, USA. It’s dark when I get to work and when I get home. I’d rather have light at the end of my day. Winter/standard time is terrible.
That’s totally fine.
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If DST wasn’t a thing, it would still not get dark in the summer time until after 9PM for me. I’d rather stay on permanent DST because winter is absolutely miserable when it’s dark until mid-late morning, dreary, rainy, and overcast all “day”, and then dark again by mid-afternoon.
I ink it really depends, to be honest.
I know I get a bit grim with winter reducing activities. What is impossible to tease out is just how much of this is weather changing with time zone.
I ink what matters most is the population centres and how they’re affected - my thinking is if most of the population is grouped in places that benefit from being ‘more livable’ because they’re not as dark and damp through ones daily experiences, then it’d be worth keeping.
I live in NZ and think itd be great here, but we’re quite far from the equator, so get a lot of dawn and dusk (I feel like it would have a big affect here, and in my perspective, it would be broadly positive for _most folks _). It’s shocking how much of an improvement DST makes in just the basic liveability - by the weather has generally been subtly improving for a few weeks as well, which completely waters down my argument
At least it wouldn’t set before I leave work !
Fingers crossed that this gives us an extra hour of sunshine after work instead of before. It’s so depressing to leave the office at 4pm and it’s already dark out.
No.
You make be spring forward and I’m owed my motherfucking fall back. I’ll take up arms to defend that stance.
Fall back is nice but we should just change the time whimsically instead.
What if instead of one hour in the fall you randomly got 8?
You could technically get 582 hours of overtime in one shift in some states depending on the change.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but permanent daylight time is bad for public health.
One link to a research article from 1974 about fuel usage. One link to an article about the change between time offset being a problem. No substantiation for other claims. This article is practically an editorial.
Eliminating vaccines is also bad for public health. Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking this is a component of the decision.
That said, I’m also sus of that position. There are plenty of healthy societies that live much further north of the us population centers.
I support standard time more, the 12 o clock at the center of the timezone should be noon, not having noon at 1PM, and day lengths are better on average without. DST makes it better, but only for sunset times, it makes the mornings drastically worse and I think employers and schools should just change their hours if they care so much about sunlight when they leave.
I support daylight savings time more and all of those regions where the sun doesn’t rise before 7AM can switch time zones.
For example, all of the USA switches to permanent daylight savings time, and the western portion of Texas that sees 0 days with a sunrise before 7 AM switches to the Mountain time zone. Now they will experience sunrise before 7 AM much more often.
Eh, I support places moving time zone but a bigger factor for me is also linguistic, it doesnt make sense for high noon at the place the time zone is defined at to be at 1 in the afternoon, the one thing I think alot of people can agree with is that 12 should be noon or as close as possible and I feel that DST works against this.
