Bought my Pixel just for GrapheneOS. It is not perfect, but better than all the Samsung etc. shit. And for the next couple years I am not forced to upgrade due to missing security updates, so there’s that.
I ran my secondary phone on Graphene for a while until I decided I needed my bank apps and work apps on my secondary phone or it’s a bad backup, so I restored Google’s OS to it and locked the bootloader again so I could use those apps
It sucks that Samsung can’t be resecured by reinstalling the official image
Exactly what I did, my Samsung had a tired battery and wanted to just start fresh with a privacy oriented device. I just hate the irony of having to buy a Google phone to get away from Google.
Me too, it’s awesome, I’m not planning on going back. On top I always buy the phone on the secondary market, still sealed, pay cash and everything works out great :D
Who makes you upgrade your phone? Does anyone have a case where something bad happened because of outdated security patches? I haven’t come across any apps that don’t work because of outdated security patches, but a bunch of apps won’t run if you have root on your phone.
It’s a bad thought process to ask for proof that security matters. You do not require proof of that as we know that it does. Many identities are stolen every day.
I think that all this hysteria around security updates may be part of a marketing ploy to increase sales of new phones. Why? Because 3 years ago, no one cared how many updates a particular phone model would receive. I also found information that more than 80% of Android smartphones in 2015 had known unpatched vulnerabilities. However, I don’t know of a single case where my friends’ phones were hacked without their involvement. But I know 1000 cases when my friends clicked on a fake link and entered their passwords/card details. Anyway, I agree that security patches are a necessity, but not a reason to immediately buy a new phone when my old one stops receiving updates.
A lot of hacks are done through browsers. Phones have browsers. When the Chinese make off with Federal Reserve documents because Joe IT logged in with a phone it doesn’t make it into the news.
It’s just the case that patched security flaws are standard practice for a reason. Hey - use http only, make all your passwords Password1, knock yourself out, but don’t expect others to be like “Yeah! Why are we doing all this . . security ???”
Bought my Pixel just for GrapheneOS. It is not perfect, but better than all the Samsung etc. shit. And for the next couple years I am not forced to upgrade due to missing security updates, so there’s that.
I ran my secondary phone on Graphene for a while until I decided I needed my bank apps and work apps on my secondary phone or it’s a bad backup, so I restored Google’s OS to it and locked the bootloader again so I could use those apps
It sucks that Samsung can’t be resecured by reinstalling the official image
Did the apps not work on GrapheneOS? My banking stuff works flawlessly for me that way 🤔
Nope, all reported phone insecure
Dang, sorry to hear that. Shitty apps.
Yep. I suspect one of the two big banks added the check and the others followed
Exactly what I did, my Samsung had a tired battery and wanted to just start fresh with a privacy oriented device. I just hate the irony of having to buy a Google phone to get away from Google.
Me too, it’s awesome, I’m not planning on going back. On top I always buy the phone on the secondary market, still sealed, pay cash and everything works out great :D
Same with calyx
Who makes you upgrade your phone? Does anyone have a case where something bad happened because of outdated security patches? I haven’t come across any apps that don’t work because of outdated security patches, but a bunch of apps won’t run if you have root on your phone.
Running insecure software is a bad idea.
I asked about real cases. And if it’s a bad idea, why do banks allow their apps to run on “unprotected” phones?
My requirements for and definition of “security” differ substantially from my bank’s.
It’s a bad thought process to ask for proof that security matters. You do not require proof of that as we know that it does. Many identities are stolen every day.
I think that all this hysteria around security updates may be part of a marketing ploy to increase sales of new phones. Why? Because 3 years ago, no one cared how many updates a particular phone model would receive. I also found information that more than 80% of Android smartphones in 2015 had known unpatched vulnerabilities. However, I don’t know of a single case where my friends’ phones were hacked without their involvement. But I know 1000 cases when my friends clicked on a fake link and entered their passwords/card details. Anyway, I agree that security patches are a necessity, but not a reason to immediately buy a new phone when my old one stops receiving updates.
A lot of hacks are done through browsers. Phones have browsers. When the Chinese make off with Federal Reserve documents because Joe IT logged in with a phone it doesn’t make it into the news.
It’s just the case that patched security flaws are standard practice for a reason. Hey - use http only, make all your passwords Password1, knock yourself out, but don’t expect others to be like “Yeah! Why are we doing all this . . security ???”