• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      They always were like this. If you shuffle a bit of their doctrine like diet/day of worship/what they choose to call the same god they all worship, etc.

      But they are both conservatives following a branch of Abrahamic religion. They both despise secularism, science, gays, women…

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        Yep. ISIS just had the wrong operating system. Religious fundamentalism is cross-platform.

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        Hey man, I’m hating it with you. I always hated our leadership but still loved our country, but now I just overall hate everything about us. Our fellow traitorous countrymen fucked our futures.

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          Yeah. I’ve kinda lost all remaining faith I had in the American electorate.

          We’ll see how the brain drain pans out in the next few years I guess, depending on how much of a shitshow this place turns into. Who knows - maybe we’ll get the New England Union, Republic of Pacifica, and the Great Lakes Federation out of this idiocy.

          The flyover states + Bible Belt are free to enjoy their theocracy, but I don’t want any of that shit. Enjoy having all these dogma and none of the economy, I guess.

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    Reads like a nothing burger. So confirms 20 people in a barn. Loosely tries to connect Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, and Trump to this movement. This just sounds like fear porn for a fringe minority of radical evangelicals, no different from other radical sects in other religious groups.

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      At this point, tens of millions of believers—about 40 percent of American Christians, including Catholics, according to a recent Denison University survey—are embracing an alluring, charismatic movement that has little use for religious pluralism, individual rights, or constitutional democracy.

      Doesn’t sound very fringe to me.

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        A lot of “surveys” are hardly vetted and they are used in an attempt to extrapolate across a larger group, but are seldom right. Just look at all the early polling that showed Kamala would be leading the Presidency, but we got orange man instead. The article also doesn’t link to said survey, so we can’t even compare its sample size or any other statistical analysis. Maybe they only surveyed 30 people. We just have to use an incredibly large figure injected by the author that supports the article’s claims. For all we know, the results of the survey might even have not been interpreted the way the author has interpreted them. I tried searching for this survey, but came up short in Kagi. Would love to read the survey and find out how it was conducted and whether or not it really does represent the American Christian community at large.

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      I think you mean non secular state, secular means without respect to religion.

      Edit: or are you saying the state should not be neutral to religion (definition of secular), but dismiss it entirely?

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        I am saying that being a state tolerant of religion is clearly not working. An atheistic state would be more just to residents.

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          What you’re describing is the Laicité that is a cornerstone of French politics and promotes state institutions free “from” religion, not just freedom “of” religion.

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          An atheistic society would also be secular. Unless it turns out that I don’t know what that word means…

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    That was thoroughly sickening. They just might achieve their goals. Never thought I’d be rooting for an establishment being possible to change, but fuck.

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    In 2016, Sheets began embracing prophecies that God was using Trump, telling fellow prophets and apostles that his victory would bring “new levels of demonic desperation.”

    Well, he was kind of right about that part. He just got it backwards.